Imagine the headlines if France and Spain installed a 1000€ annual accès fee to health care for UK pensioners. Totally justified because they consume more healthcare than they have paid for or will pay in.
It doesn't fit with the " Libre circulation des peuples" now does it?their healthcare bill is paid for by UK government now and will be after brexit.
On the principle of local levy for immigrant/migrant workers, I think the EU could do well looking into this closely.
Think of it as a 'prélèvement de solidarité'.
Just when one thought it was safe and free from antagonistic interruption to resume reporting and discussion of the biggest peacetime event in the last half-century to concern the peoples of Europe, the troll reappears with its usual non-constructive criticisms of some frequent contributors.That's not new Tillson, OG and Tom have posted nothing but tripe.
can we call it what it is... its not a levy... its a fine.I think that the levy should really be a kind of precept for local authorities. The amount should be adapted to reduce local unemployment.
The purpose of free movement is unqualfied, it doesn't come with a price as you propose.yes, it does.
The levy will be paid by the employers.
The workers will still retain freedom to look for and accept work in any member country.
is proven to be incorrect. Its a Daily Mail assumtion.Taxing employers who benefit from having cheaper labour makes sense to me. This can only happen after brexit or by a decision of the EU commission.
If you average out regional differences then you lose all the peaks and troughs.This...
is proven to be incorrect. Its a Daily Mail assumtion.
Free Movement has been proven to not reduce the wages in any profession.
http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/money/mortgages-bills/lse-says-eu-migrants-have-no-negative-impact-on-uk-wages-11364060552484
again... that's a daily mail view - not backed up by actual fact.If you average out regional differences then you lose all the peaks and troughs.
Jobs in rural England are notoriously difficult to get, consequently, more rural constituencies voted for brexit.
In London, immigrants usually boost the economy.
It isn't increasing the tax on the employer that troubles me, it is the fact that if I was applying for a job as an EU citizen, I would have to overcome the financial advantage to the employer that a UK citizen would have.Tom, the healthcare bills for Britons in the EU is borne by UK government. The local providers do not lose out on this.
OG, taxation is far from being an evil, even on cases like this, where clearly one group of people seems to be discriminated against. Successive governments reduce taxes to the rich, that comprise most employers (find me a really poor employer farmer) with predictable consequences.
Taxing employers who benefit from having cheaper labour makes sense to me. This can only happen after brexit or by a decision of the EU commission.
The current membership benefits clearly Britons living abroad, working and retired, while people who live and work in rural England seem to be worse off because of EU immigrant workers.
I'm sorry to have to disagree with your assertion, 'Woosh' but you are correct only in as far as the general reciprocal health arrangements exist in principle. That is why those of us who travel extensively in Europe carry the EHIC card, (ex E111).Tom, the healthcare bills for Britons in the EU is borne by UK government. The local providers do not lose out on this.
Following market logic, if the locals don't want to do it, then the wages are too low perhaps?can we call it what it is... its not a levy... its a fine.
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Its a nonsense idea..
What next... anyone employed in Yorkshire who isn't from Yorkshire will be fined??
and what about all the companies owned and run by non UK nationals in this country, are they going to fine us for every UK employee they have to take on?
From the independent
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Boris Johnson has completely changed how he talks about Donald Trump
Foreign Secretary now says he is ‘excited’ by Republican's presidency – having previously called him ‘clearly out of his mind’
Good old Boris the man who can be right 50% of the time rides again, he operated on the principle of approval of the last person he spoke to.
Ingenious? no Ingenuous, alas.
Fortunately only Brexit fans take him seriously any more. and that is purely a temporary situation.
There already is an EU law that allows the UK to do this. The UK chooses not to do it! So yet again the "problem" is the UK and not the EU.OG, your comment:
'I would have to overcome the financial advantage to the employer that a UK citizen would have.'
It is usually the case for most immigrants from outside the EU coming here on a working visa. Why shouldn't it apply to all immigrants?
Often we concentrate on human issues and forget that most employers are (or controlled by) rich individuals who benefited from competition of our two biggest parties on tax cut.