Brexit, for once some facts.
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Yep, the stuff coming out of both Israel and Germany is odd.....
Leave it to OG. He understands everything.
Zlatan said 80% coping well.
38,000 in hospitals is 0.06% of the population, so 99.94% are doing well at coping with Covid.
Crisis? What crisis?
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to make it tolerable, the number of covid patients in hospitals needs to be under 10,000-15,000.
Hospital admissions must be under 1,000 a day, new cases under 10,000 a day at the peak of the next wave.
Do the maths.
We need 70%+ reduction in cases.
Tough on everyone. Being in Wales, I am so very aware of the high rates in some areas. So far out local hospital has been doing quite well. I think all Covid-19 cases are shipped out as soon as they have been assessed.
I am very concerned about this person as he seems only to have an elderly mother who lives a hundred miles away. I'll volunteer to go fetch her, if appropriate. But, obviously, Covid-19 is an issue in every step of that.
You have a point but according to ONS only 1 in 50 of us are infected... If we all were that puts 3% of us in hospital.
I, d guess NHS would collapse at 0.2%???probably less??
Can't believe they are discussing reducing restrictions..
Not so simple. There are FOUR NHS organisations - E, NI, S and W each has their own. Yes, lots of links, but they are separate and responsibilities are not quite so easily assessed.
Totally agree... Vaccine won't do it all. We, ll need restrictions on our freedoms as well. Not sure folk are willing. They will see numbers drop and go out and party. Numbers will go up, then those same folk will look for somebody to blame.
Just like Flu, many of the mutations are of no concern whatsoever because they aren’t vaccine resistant. It’s those that can beat the vaccine that we concern ourselves with. Because Covid mutates more slowly than Flu, vaccine beating strains will be less prevalent and easier to thwart if they do appear.
Which is why I have no faith in the UK data. I do trust the Irish data, because it is not time limited ,and when they mention the daily totals they make corrections such as .".. We are removing 6 deaths as due to other causes and adding 8 which were reported late. "
Hopefully, once everyone is vaccinated, the ant-vaccination, ant-mask and anti-lockdown clowns can get on with killing themselves with less inconvenience to the rest of us. I don’t think they should be allowed into hospitals though when they eventually do succumb to the virus, they can be treated in a gazebo set up in the car park along with a 100 psi compressor and airline to substitute for a ventilator. The sooner we rid ourselves of these idiots the better as far as I’m concerned.
I know it sounds like I often defend BJ/Tories and indirectly I suppose I do, for which I apologise. Without doubt they could have handled it better.
But whilst ever there is a target to blame, to deflect people's own guilt people will use it.
People no longer take personal responsibility for anything. Every thing is somebody else's fault. "they should have locked down earlier*" the rules are complicared""they didn't do rules in Swahili*" Dominic Cummings drove all over country"Its endless and whilst ever its available people will use it.
The spirit of the rules have been easy. The logistics difficult. Folk have used it throughout and starting blame culture now will only add to it.
When this is really behind us is the time to find out what went wrong and who is responsible. Starting recrimination now, before the story is finished, only fuels the fire of both civil unrest and spread of covid.
But whilst ever there is a target to blame, to deflect people's own guilt people will use it.
People no longer take personal responsibility for anything. Every thing is somebody else's fault. "they should have locked down earlier*" the rules are complicared""they didn't do rules in Swahili*" Dominic Cummings drove all over country"Its endless and whilst ever its available people will use it.
The spirit of the rules have been easy. The logistics difficult. Folk have used it throughout and starting blame culture now will only add to it.
When this is really behind us is the time to find out what went wrong and who is responsible. Starting recrimination now, before the story is finished, only fuels the fire of both civil unrest and spread of covid.
Add in the considerable numbers who have to go to hospital in the months after their initial Covid-19 - even if they did not need hospital treatment initially.
Who knows how vaccination will affect those numbers?
On past issues I agree.
But that doesn't mean we should stop complaining about current issues that can still be corrected. Like the vaccine distribution shambles.
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They say it, repeatedly, because, well, there's no other way of putting it, he did.
I suspect people on here are capable of saying it without letting it change their behaviour. That is not the case with most of nation. Many will say"well he drove all over, why shouldn't I... "
Its not just Cummings its our blame culture.
" not my fault" That was endemic years before covid.
That's why I don't think Campbell is helping. Give folk a get out and they will snatch it.
where did you see that? The 'prime boost' system needs the second jab. The first jab primes the immune system, the second jab brings the immune response to protective level.
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