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He is, along with all those mentioned, exactly why we have a Tory government..
you should leave the Iraq war to rest.
those traditional Labour voters still harking at it after so many years are the reason why Labour still trailing behind the tories.
 

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The head of AZ has said that all U.K. citizens over 50 will be vaccinated by March. That’s not government PR, this is a third party and what’s even better, it’s the manufacturers of the vaccine. He’s confident that sufficient vaccine can be supplied to the U.K. to meet this target.
Since when has the head of AZ been in charge of vaccinating anyone at all?
That's AZ PR
 
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oldgroaner

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You just don't get it do you. Thick or what.
Campbell / Blair/New Labour/ Corbyn and the rest of the charade we try and call Labour/Socialist are exactly why we have strongest Tory government since Thatcher.
Campbell now spouting after he and his buddy destroyed Labour (admittedly helped by the Marxist take over) leaving us with no option but to support Tories...
Putting faith in Campbell now is utterly ridiculous. He is, along with all those mentioned, exactly why we have a Tory government..
If you are looking for a solution with Campbell, you are sadly mistaken.
Yes, Campbell talks some sense, his mate Blair does occasionaly but holding either in any esteem is as bad as supporting Johnson.
Or are you now a New Labour advocate?
Nobody has criticised Blair and Campbell more than you but now he, s suddenly wise.
He, s rebel rousing and if it carries on we, ll see same as we, ve seen in Netherlands.
And you are not getting the point as usual
Try reading my posts and perhaps get a grown up to explain if you cant.
I am not a fan of any political party or politician in this country
I'm criticising you for this stupid attitude based on your dislike of personalities
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"leaving us with no option but to support Tories... "
Did it indeed?
 

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AstraZeneca's chief executive has hit back at the EU by saying that "glitches" in the supply of #COVID19 vaccines to the bloc are due to it signing its contract three months after the UK
COVID-19: AstraZeneca boss says EU vaccine supply 'glitches' are because it signed deal 3 months...
Delays in vaccine supply have sparked a row between two pharmaceutical firms, the UK and the European Union.
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Not much of a CEO that doesn't have a market research department to advise him in what is the ultimate seller's market
 
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flecc

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Someone who lives nearby has just gone into hospital as an emergency.

It has come as a bit of a shock to realise that Covid-19 is so deeply entrenched in my mind, I was pinching myself as I realised his issue is nothing to do with Covid-19 at all.
This is what I meant when I suggested that many deaths of old people with underlying conditions put down to Covid are nothing of the sort. Covid-19 is so entrenched in all minds now, that has become inevitable.

Cause of death is often difficult to ascertain and Covid-19 has become too easy a cop-out.

It wouldn't surprise me if at least 25% of the so called Covid deaths were not, especially with this nonsense of deaths within 28 days of a positve test automatically assigned to Covid.
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Jesus H Christ

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Since when has the head of AZ been in charge of vaccinating anyone at all?
That's AZ PR
There is easily sufficient needle jabbers to meet that target, it’s what goes in the syringe that has been the limiting factor. The man who makes the stuff that goes in the syringes has said they will make sufficient available to the U.K. to meet the all over 50s by March target.

I’m over 50 and live in the U.K., so I’m very encouraged by that.
 
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Zlatan

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And you are not getting the point as usual
Try reading my posts and perhaps get a grown up to explain if you cant.
I am not a fan of any political party or politician in this country
I'm criticising you for this stupid attitude based on your dislike of personalities
I note this
"leaving us with no option but to support Tories... "
Did it indeed?
Campbell and Blair are part of problem. Not the cure. Not sure Campbell is even in Labour party anymore, he was expelled at one point by Corbyn.
Pair of them should shut up but no they can't. Blair is suddenly an expert epidemiologist telling us to share, delay our vaccine, something you, ve moaned and moaned about and Campbell has retired to Twitter..
Our way through this is not screaming and shouting as folk do on twitter but with a calm, objective, depoliticised examination and at right time. Campbell screaming for an investigation now, throwing out rash statements is both dangerous and not helpful. It's also the height of hypocrisy from a man who instigated the lies perpetrated by Blair. But you like hypocrisy don't you.
 
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oldgroaner

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The last time I looked, the NHS was the responsibility of the government. There’s even a health minister!
I take it you made that post in jest
The NHS has to operate despite both the government and it's minister, this government NEVER admits responsibility for anything
 

flecc

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The head of AZ has said that all U.K. citizens over 50 will be vaccinated by March. That’s not government PR, this is a third party and what’s even better, it’s the manufacturers of the vaccine. He’s confident that sufficient vaccine can be supplied to the U.K. to meet this target.
Note the cop out in the last sentence, claimed supplied, not in peoples arms.

He doesn't realise how skilled we are at underachieving, like my surgery for example.
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oldgroaner

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Campbell and Blair are part of problem. Not the cure. Not sure Campbell is even in Labour party anymore, he was expelled at one point by Corbyn.
Pair of them should shut up but no they can't. Blair is suddenly an expert epidemiologist telling us to share our vaccine, something you, ve moaned and moaned about and Campbell has retired to Twitter..
Our way through this is not screaming and shouting as folk do on twitter but with a calm, objective, depoliticised examination. Campbell screaming for an investigation now, throwing out rash statements is both dangerous and not helpful. It's also the height of hypocrisy from a man who instigated the lies perpetrated by Blair. But you like hypocrisy don't you.
Ignoring your usual jibes, essentially that post is just another of your rants.

Full marks for being imaginative
"Pair of them should shut up but no they can't. Blair is suddenly an expert epidemiologist telling us to share our vaccine, something you, ve moaned and moaned about"

Know something? I have no recollection of ever doing that

And this too
"Our way through this is not screaming and shouting as folk do on twitter but with a calm, objective, depoliticised examination. "

Hypocrisy indeed you could hardly class your rants as that, could you?
 

Zlatan

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What if it doesn’t work at all? What if it slows the virus by 87%? What if it slows the virus by 73%? What if it slows the virus by 26%? What if it stops the virus 100%?
At moment 80% of population cope well enough with Covid. Nobody is saying what that figure is raised to after vaccination.??
Vaccine, it seems, doesn't have to be terribly effective to raise that?? Does it??
I, ll ask Tony Blair or Campbell. They are this weeks experts.
 

Jesus H Christ

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Note the cop out in the last sentence, claimed supplied, not in peoples arms.

He doesn't realise how skilled we are at underachieving, like my surgery for example.
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I think the vaccination rate is a remarkable achievement. I accept that it’s not free from administration problems such as you are experiencing. But, over six million people have been vaccinated so far. If the stuff is available, I reckon that it will be pumped into people at a rate sufficient to meet the March target.
 
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Zlatan

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Ignoring your usual jibes, essentially that post is just another of your rants.

Full marks for being imaginative
"Pair of them should shut up but no they can't. Blair is suddenly an expert epidemiologist telling us to share our vaccine, something you, ve moaned and moaned about"

Know something? I have no recollection of ever doing that

And this too
"Our way through this is not screaming and shouting as folk do on twitter but with a calm, objective, depoliticised examination. "

Hypocrisy indeed you could hardly class your rants as that, could you?
Rants... Hypocrite. Again and again......... And again..
 

flecc

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There is easily sufficient needle jabbers to meet that target, it’s what goes in the syringe that has been the limiting factor. The man who makes the stuff that goes in the syringes has said they will make sufficient available to the U.K. to meet the all over 50s by March target.
But there's not enough vials !

Of course if they hadn't started this half dose nonsense and just stuck to a single full dose, they'd only need half the number of vials and got the job done quicker in the end .
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