Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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They've often been first with many things, but I'm sure today's kids will have picked up on the ice and salt potential from their ice cream makers. Those weren't around when I was young, people didn't even have fridges, let alone freezers to make ice!
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A wet Tea cloth draped over a pot jug filled with Milk was what mother used in the pantry.
Food was rationed so there was no need to keep anything very long!
 
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oldgroaner

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Fleck go google freezers they have been around a long time
And ice for the well off too
Only an "Aristo" like you would know these secrets of the landed Gentry D8ve.....:rolleyes:
The mask has slipped......HA!...Gotcha!:eek:

(I've always had my suspicions about him.......he owns a Bickerton you know)
How many poor people ride them?
 
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Only an "Aristo" like you would know these secrets of the landed Gentry D8ve.....:rolleyes:
The mask has slipped......HA!...Gotcha!:eek:

(I've always had my suspicions about him.......he owns a Bickerton you know)
How many poor people ride them?
Dash you have me their old chap.
 

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Fleck go google freezers they have been around a long time
And ice for the well off too
I'm well aware of those, but that's not what I said. I said we didn't even have fridges, let alone freezers when I was young.

That was why we had milk deliveries seven days a week! The fridge only spread into common ownership in Britain during the 1970s, so by the end of the '70s Sunday milk deliveries ended. For almost all of us our only sight of them before 1970 was in American movies, often looking like this.
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I'm well aware of those, but that's not what I said. I said we didn't even have fridges, let alone freezers when I was young.

That was why we had milk deliveries seven days a week! The fridge only spread into common ownership in Britain during the 1970s, so by the end of the '70s Sunday milk deliveries ended. For almost all of us our only sight of them before 1970 was in American movies, often looking like this.
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Crikey! we had a smaller Anderson Shelter than that! (and it was a Freezer too!)
 

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The fridge only spread into common ownership in Britain during the 1970s
Although some posh people had fridges and even domestic freezers before the 1970s, you are quite right 'flecc' that it wasn't until the 70s and later that they became de rigueur in modern kitchens.

My late wife managed a frozen food store, 'Bejam', since subsumed by 'Iceland', back in the early 1970s. Not only did Bejam sell food, they also sold fridges and freezers and had done since the company's inception in the late 60s.

In those days, we didn't have a freezer but one day I arrived home to find a chest freezer in our kitchen. My wife explained that an elderly lady had come into her shop to purchase a modern upright freezer to suit her new kitchen in her rather grand house. She insisted that her old freezer was taken away by the delivery people so it was duly taken back to the shop and placed with other old traded units in the back storage area awaiting disposal.

Because the delivery chaps reported that the freezer had had to be emptied on their arrival so was clearly still working, the lady wishing to keep her food cold to transfer into the new freezer as soon as it was up and running, my wife determined that it was too good to scrap and would fit neatly into our fairly large kitchen!

There was a curious thing about it though in that it didn't have one of the recognisable names on it and the lady who had owned it apparently for several years referred to it as a 'conservator', rather than a freezer. I later discovered it was American and manufactured by a firm called Crosley.

We used it for a couple of years and on moving into a new home with fitted fridge-freezer, it lived on for a few more years in my garage. Going off at a tangent, although we always bought milk from the supermarket back in the 80s, we were the 'odd man out' as the street I lived in then had a large old people's home and external maisonettes for the more able elderly. Most other residents of that street had their milk delivered in glass bottles because Express Dairies still delivered by electric milk float to the neighbourhood including the old people's place.

Ah, nostalgia's just not what it used to be!:rolleyes:

Tom
 
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We lived on scraps and slept in a shoe box.
The freezer was the outside lavatory where we used worn sandpaper to wipe ourselves clean.
Dried milk ,water and offal on a lucky day.
Although it all turned out well in the end.
Happy days!
 
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My late wife managed a frozen food store, 'Bejam', since subsumed by 'Iceland', back in the early 1970s. Not only did Bejam sell food, they also sold fridges and freezers and had done since the company's inception in the late 60s.
Tom
Yes, I remember Bejam, they arrived a bit too early, ahead of most wanting or able to own a fridge or freezer.

Odd how timing upsets plans in the food business, like the way freeze dried peas arrived a bit too late, just as the superior and more convenient frozen ones arrived.

I still have a packet of Batchelors "Surprise" freeze dried peas from the 1970s, shown below. Might need them if Brexit really fails. :D

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just another "fact" to get us back on topic. Continental - the tyre people, emailed all their customers at the back end of last week... I've yet to see the email but I believe they essentially say..

15% approx average prices rises across the board, and they expect it to kill sales for a bit... whilst people buy up all the old stock.

If these price rises are kicking in now in bike parts for the big guys it won't be long before they are hitting everything. 15% inflation isn't something I'm comfortable with... especially as this is just because of the result of the referendum. God only know what will happen when/if they trigger A50, and then we actually leave the single market and suddenly we have extra tarrifs and handling fees added onto the these already increasing prices.

Hold onto your hats people!
 
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Yes, I remember Bejam, they arrived a bit too early, ahead of most wanting or able to own a fridge or freezer.

Odd how timing upsets plans in the food business, like the way freeze dried peas arrived a bit too late, just as the superior and more convenient frozen ones arrived.

I still have a packet of Batchelors "Surprise" freeze dried peas from the 1970s, shown below. Might need them if Brexit really fails. :D

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Are those the peas that go in a pea-shooter? I vaguely remember a little block of something wrapped in paper being supplied with the peas. I've no idea what it was.
 

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We lived on scraps and slept in a shoe box.
The freezer was the outside lavatory where we used worn sandpaper to wipe ourselves clean.
Dried milk ,water and offal on a lucky day.
Although it all turned out well in the end.
Happy days!
No Sandpaper, we were well off and used newspaper neatly torn into sheets, but if it got damp you were sitting on the headlines....:eek:
 
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oldgroaner

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Are those the peas that go in a pea-shooter? I vaguely remember a little block of something wrapped in paper being supplied with the peas. I've no idea what it was.
The peas were Marrowfat Peas and the white Block was Bicarbonate of Soda.
Mother used to soak them overnight in a basin, and spare dry ones made ammo for my peashooter.
I was a noted good shot with it among my contemporaries.
Great times :D
 

oldgroaner

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Yes, I remember Bejam, they arrived a bit too early, ahead of most wanting or able to own a fridge or freezer.

Odd how timing upsets plans in the food business, like the way freeze dried peas arrived a bit too late, just as the superior and more convenient frozen ones arrived.

I still have a packet of Batchelors "Surprise" freeze dried peas from the 1970s, shown below. Might need them if Brexit really fails. :D

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If it does
I shall dust off my peashooter....
 
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Are those the peas that go in a pea-shooter? I vaguely remember a little block of something wrapped in paper being supplied with the peas. I've no idea what it was.
No, the freeze dried ones are too shrivelled. As OG says, they were probably the marrowfat ones.
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Nice to see you all preparing to go back to the 40's! :rolleyes: If I was going to do time travel I would prefer going back to the future :D
 
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No Sandpaper, we were well off and used newspaper neatly torn into sheets, but if it got damp you were sitting on the headlines....:eek:
There was competition for the newspapers. Some we took to the fish and chip shop for them to wrap our purchases, others we tore into sheets and threaded on string loops to make toilet paper. Still more were used by some of us to make papier maché for modelling.

The TV programs purporting to take people back to live in past conditions irritate me, since they never include any of these aspects. I suppose the health and safety brigade would never permit things like eating fish and chips out of other peoples discarded newspapers.
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There was competition for the newspapers. Some we took to the fish and chip shop for them to wrap our purchases, others we tore into sheets and threaded on string loops to make toilet paper. Still more were used by some of us to make papier maché for modelling.

The TV programs purporting to take people back to live in past conditions irritate me, since they never include any of these aspects. I suppose the health and safety brigade would never permit things like eating fish and chips out of other peoples discarded newspapers.
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There are still to this very day deep in the backwoods of Yorkshire chippies where fish and chips are still cooked in dripping and sold in greaseproof paper wrapped in newspaper so the fat doesn't make the ink run.
I know where they are but I'm sworn to secrecy.

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When Theresa May was handing out the jobs,it was assumed that Hunt would be replaced as health secretary,he didn't look happy with continuing in that job.
We now have the winter NHS crisis,the start of a winter of discontent on the railways and still no plan on Brexit....TM has a habit of putting her head in the sand or going off on a trip (Turkey?)when the flac hits,she is a central control freak,fair enough if she has the ability to control.
Brexit seems to be taking 100% of her time,to the exclusion of everything else,but even so Brexit seems out of control.
She has to delegate but she doesn't have the team to delegate to,this government needs to be one of the best but in reality it is one of the worst.....would you trust Boris/Davis and Fox to achieve anything?
By March 31 Brexit may be a minor problem within the mess of unresolved problems and May will be in denial.
KudosDave
 

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