Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

UK economy to outstrip Europe over next 15 years

New global ranking lifts Brexit hopes with forecast that GDP in Britain will be 23pc more than in France by 2035

www.telegraph.co.uk

Ah it's in the Telegraph, so it must be true eh?
You must be thick as mince to believe that , it has the stamp of the Heath Robinson of Economics (Minford) all over it.

Here are the Govenment estimates till 2024
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/910534/Forecomp_August_2020_new.pdf
Or are things suddenly become "World beating" afterwards for some magical reason?

 

[oldgroaner]

oldgroaner@oldgroaner

Replying to

@TheNewEuropean

Shadow ministers prepare to resign As John Wayne used to say "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do" (And that goes for the Ladies too) The correct move would be to abstain and make the Tory party "OWN" the deal

oldgroaner@oldgroaner
2m

This is the same as the old saying "The best way to punish a man who steals your wife is to let him keep her"

 

[Danidl]

Seriously you are getting worse, perhaps you need reminding
"The UK War Office in 1922 estimated French losses as 1,385,300 dead and missing, including 58,000 colonial soldiers. The U.S. War Department in 1924 estimated 1,357,800 killed and died. The names of the soldiers who died for France during World War I are listed on-line by the French government.

And earlier it's hard to see how Napoleon could have won so many battles and conquered as much of Europe as he did using "spineless" French soldiers.
Spineless? really ?

And our latest exploit is to save France from the biggest traffic gridlock any nation ever on it's own main arteries of trade created by Johnson's panic announcement over the new Covid strain he knew about in September ,to cover the fact he had failed to lockdown the country in time yet again, and he still hasn't has he?

Odd that there must be a similar situation on the other side of the channel that never gets mentioned in the media, isn't it? or are the French so well organised it hasn't caused a problem there?

The last sentence actually says it all.. the French are extremely well organised. They take the Liberty, Fraternity , Equality mantra very much to heart, and organise themselves very comfortably for themselves. Well organised, well structured, but not very flexible.

 

[Danidl]

The Royal Gurkha Rifles. One of many fine regiment within The British Army and a formidable brave fighting force too. We are honoured to have their support. The British armed forces has saved France, yet again, from the two words which define them as a nation, treachery and spinelessness. It is no wonder the French behave in the manner we have witnessed in recent days. They must feel such overwhelming shame and embarrassment. They have a president short in stature, Mr Micron, and as a nation, like their president, they frequently fail to measure up too.

You have successfully confused me.. not perhaps the most difficult of tasks, but were not those lorries somewhere on the streets of Dover, and is Dover not somewhere in the UK? And why would a light infantry regiment be employed fighting against a phantom enemy in Kent?. So what the !!!!!,has any of this to do with France?.

 

[oyster]

And earlier it's hard to see how Napoleon could have won so many battles and conquered as much of Europe as he did using "spineless" French soldiers.

Though not all were French!

1810–1812

With the exception of Spain, a three-year lull ensued. Diplomatic tensions with Russia, however, became so acute that they eventually led to war in 1812. Napoleon assembled the largest field army he had ever commanded to deal with this menace. On 24 June 1812, shortly before the invasion, the assembled troops with a total strength of 685,000 men were made up of:

• 410,000 Frenchmen
• 95,000 Poles
• 35,000 Austrians
• 30,000 Italians
• 24,000 Bavarians
• 20,000 Saxons
• 20,000 Prussians
• 17,000 Westphalians
• 15,000 Swiss
• 10,000 Danes and Norwegians
• 4,000 Portuguese
• 3,500 Croats
• 2,000 Irish

 

[Zlatan]

The last sentence actually says it all.. the French are extremely well organised. They take the Liberty, Fraternity , Equality mantra very much to heart, and organise themselves very comfortably for themselves. Well organised, well structured, but not very flexible.

I thought you knew the French, having lived there.,???

 

[Danidl]

I thought you knew the French, having lived there.,???

Which is why I speak from experience.... I tend to visit my French property for about 8 weeks each year and have done so for 20 years, previously I toured extensively by caravan, for 10 years and had a few previous visits ..once for a month as a guest of their Science Research Council at an international summer school.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

You have successfully confused me.. not perhaps the most difficult of tasks, but were not those lorries somewhere on the streets of Dover, and is Dover not somewhere in the UK? And why would a light infantry regiment be employed fighting against a phantom enemy in Kent?. So what the !!!!!,has any of this to do with France?.

The lorries, the majority of which originated from the continent, were stuck because of a French manufactured situation.Tiny little Mr Micron strategically shut the border to cause maximum disruption to continental Europe nations in the run up to Christmas. He dishonestly used the new Coronavirus strain as covering fire. That strain was already in France and he knew it. Truckers passing through France, isolated in their cabs would have made no difference, and Micron knew that too.

The above is a classic example of the French’s oily, dishonest treachery. No guts to be up front with their grievances, but resorting to their national characteristics of back stabbing and surrender.

The wonderful British military came to the rescue though, sorted it out and got the truckers home. Top job as always.

 

[Zlatan]

The lorries, the majority of which originated from the continent, were stuck because of a French manufactured situation.Tiny little Mr Micron strategically shut the border to cause maximum disruption to continental Europe nations in the run up to Christmas. He dishonestly used the new Coronavirus strain as covering fire. That strain was already in France and he knew it. Truckers passing through France, isolated in their cabs would have made no difference, and Micron knew that too.

The above is a classic example of the French’s oily, dishonest treachery. No guts to be up front with their grievances, but resorting to their national characteristics of back stabbing and surrender.

The wonderful British military came to the rescue though, sorted it out and got the truckers home. Top job as always.

Love it... And it's true...
Danidl
Did you teach them much? I always found French slow on uptake and rather hard to teach. A bit lazy if I, m honest.

 

[oldgroaner]

You have successfully confused me.. not perhaps the most difficult of tasks, but were not those lorries somewhere on the streets of Dover, and is Dover not somewhere in the UK? And why would a light infantry regiment be employed fighting against a phantom enemy in Kent?. So what the !!!!!,has any of this to do with France?.

While he's in that mood I'm surprised BS hasn't blamed them for the lack of toilet facilities, food, etc.,etc.

 

[oldgroaner]

Love it... And it's true...
Danidl
Did you teach them much? I always found French slow on uptake and rather hard to teach. A bit lazy if I, m honest.

Are they only lazy if you're honest?
And if you aren't do they mend their ways?

 

[sjpt]

always found French slow on uptake and rather hard to teach. A bit lazy if I, m honest.

That's the teacher was lazy I guess.

 

[Zlatan]

That's the teacher was lazy I guess.

Yep, akin to your English teacher I suspect.

 

[oldgroaner]

The lorries, the majority of which originated from the continent, were stuck because of a French manufactured situation.Tiny little Mr Micron strategically shut the border to cause maximum disruption to continental Europe nations in the run up to Christmas. He dishonestly used the new Coronavirus strain as covering fire. That strain was already in France and he knew it. Truckers passing through France, isolated in their cabs would have made no difference, and Micron knew that too.

The above is a classic example of the French’s oily, dishonest treachery. No guts to be up front with their grievances, but resorting to their national characteristics of back stabbing and surrender.

The wonderful British military came to the rescue though, sorted it out and got the truckers home. Top job as always.

And all the other countries that closed their borders to us are guilty too are they?
At least 40 countries have banned or limited UK travel while more details are sought about the more infectious COVID-19 variant.

What you should be asking is why Boris dropped this bad news rather than taking the action needed when he first knew about it, and why the facilities on his FarageGarage lorry parks hadn't been installed when there have been months wasted?
And just how does the trucks isolated in France make no difference?
No doubt it doesn't to you, but it sure as hell does over there, and the press suppress that fact so that they can fire up opinions like yours, gaslighting the fact that Boris created the situation in the first place.

 

[Danidl]

Love it... And it's true...
Danidl
Did you teach them much? I always found French slow on uptake and rather hard to teach. A bit lazy if I, m honest.

Lazy is double edged term. When one is organised , it doesn't look much different than lazy.. except that people are not racing around chasing their tails. Things just get done. The inflexibility bit ... Is also very true a few years ago a I had just changed the 4 car tyres to fresh ones, and went to France. So there was only 1000 miles on the tyres. . I noticed a nick on a front wheel sidewall, .. a bit more than a scuff as there was a sliver of rubber detached. Anyway I went to get it replaced, assuming that getting a Michelen replacement would be easy . Well the garage did not have an exact replacement model, and refused point blank to put even a single very near model on. Basically he would only replace both or none. It got quite heated for a while . But no way would he budge. In the end I gave in and got the two ,..and a respect for his integrity

 

[Zlatan]

Lazy is double edged term. When one is organised , it doesn't look much different than lazy.. except that people are not racing around chasing their tails. Things just get done. The inflexibility bit ... Is also very true a few years ago a I had just changed the 4 car tyres to fresh ones, and went to France. So there was only 1000 miles on the tyres. . I noticed a nick on a front wheel sidewall, .. a bit more than a scuff as there was a sliver of rubber detached. Anyway I went to get it replaced, assuming that getting a Michelen replacement would be easy . Well the garage did not have an exact replacement model, and refused point blank to put even a single very near model on. Basically he would only replace both or none. It got quite heated for a while . But no way would he budge. In the end I gave in and got the two ,..and a respect for his integrity

Integrity in the name of profit?? And rather poor for environment. Throwing away not one probably perfectly good tyre... But two..
Tyres should be changed by necessity. Three for price of two etc type bargains should be banned.
There is a lot of rubbish talked about tyres not matching. Same size, same profile, same speed rating, same construction (cross/radial) and correct pressure... Fine.

 

[oldgroaner]

Though not all were French!

1810–1812

With the exception of Spain, a three-year lull ensued. Diplomatic tensions with Russia, however, became so acute that they eventually led to war in 1812. Napoleon assembled the largest field army he had ever commanded to deal with this menace. On 24 June 1812, shortly before the invasion, the assembled troops with a total strength of 685,000 men were made up of:

• 410,000 Frenchmen
• 95,000 Poles
• 35,000 Austrians
• 30,000 Italians
• 24,000 Bavarians
• 20,000 Saxons
• 20,000 Prussians
• 17,000 Westphalians
• 15,000 Swiss
• 10,000 Danes and Norwegians
• 4,000 Portuguese
• 3,500 Croats
• 2,000 Irish

And our side was just as international

 

[oldgroaner]

Those naughty Japanese are closing their borders




James O'Brien@mrjamesob

G7 country, over 126 million people & the third largest economy in the world. To date, they have suffered 3,062 Covid-19 deaths compared to our 70,405. Just one reason why the UK government & client journalists are so desperate to remove international comparisons from the debate

 

[Zlatan]

Lazy is double edged term. When one is organised , it doesn't look much different than lazy.. except that people are not racing around chasing their tails. Things just get done. The inflexibility bit ... Is also very true a few years ago a I had just changed the 4 car tyres to fresh ones, and went to France. So there was only 1000 miles on the tyres. . I noticed a nick on a front wheel sidewall, .. a bit more than a scuff as there was a sliver of rubber detached. Anyway I went to get it replaced, assuming that getting a Michelen replacement would be easy . Well the garage did not have an exact replacement model, and refused point blank to put even a single very near model on. Basically he would only replace both or none. It got quite heated for a while . But no way would he budge. In the end I gave in and got the two ,..and a respect for his integrity

When we left France (had house near Perpignan for 10 years) it wasn't worth bringing Renault home. It failed CT so we decided to scrap it. Took it to local "reprocessing plant". Scrapped vehicle, got 150 Euros for it along with 3 certificates declaring vehicle scrapped. One needed to close insurance, one to Mare's office to notify authorities, one for our records. All done according to protocol.
6 months later we got, in UK, a speeding ticket dated 3 months after we scrapped vehicle. Sent copy of certificate and contacted authorities to explain situation. They doubled fine.
French integrity. I, d have a bet with you Danidl your undamaged but replaced tyre will have been cleaned and put into stock. (and, I bet they charged you a disposal fee)
??? That's how French business operates. Our house and land sale was even more corrupt than scrapping car!!??

 

[Zlatan]

Those naughty Japanese are closing their borders

James O'Brien@mrjamesob
G7 country, over 126 million people & the third largest economy in the world. To date, they have suffered 3,062 Covid-19 deaths compared to our 70,405. Just one reason why the UK government & client journalists are so desperate to remove international comparisons from the debate

Countries we should be compared to are France etc.. Or look at Isle of Man... Life normal there. There are reasons.
And one is the stupidity of many on our shores.
Our local primary school had a report that a parent had had a +ve cvd test. Head approached the lady who insisted she had not. Feeling suspicious head phoned Tand T. Turned out lady in question had a +ve test 12 days earlier, along with all her 3 children,all of whom never missed a day in school. Children were told to stay home... For 2 days. Isolation was almost finished. And yet we blame Boris/ Government. Well some do.
We need an anti stupid Vaccine but the stupid would refuse it.