One has no scintilla of a notion regarding what one is suggesting. (What the **** are you banging on about?) ;-)
Brexit, for once some facts.
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And while you're at it do away with food bank vouchers
Local food banks: Food banks near me and how to get a food bank referral
We explain how to find food banks near me and how you can get a food bank referral. Also find out how to access food banks without referral.
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Say a basic baked tattie with butter and cheese at £4.90 (492 calories) - £15 a week will amply cover 3 of those a week giving a day off between meals.
I hear Cummings is looking for mifits like him as policy experts - Applicants are instructed to send a one-page email outlining their ideas to an unofficial account - ideasfornumber10@gmail.com - with the subject line “Job”.
Right up your street Tilson,
“If you want to figure out what characters around Putin might do, or how international criminal gangs might exploit holes in our border security, you don’t want more Oxbridge English graduates who chat about [French psychoanalyst Jacques] Lacan at dinner parties with TV producers and spread fake news about fake news,” Cummings wrote.
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Say a basic baked tattie with butter and cheese at £4.90 (492 calories) - £15 a week will amply cover 3 of those a week giving a day off between meals
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Morrisons cafe is far cheaper (plus you get salad) and I'm sure many places would do a deal for hundreds of customers.
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Morrisons cafe is far cheaper (plus you get salad) and I'm sure many places would do a deal for hundreds of customers.
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If you're looking at value then McDonalds Breakfast roll is priced at £2.89 > The Brown Sauce version clocks in at 517 kcal with the Ketchup option slightly lower at 515 kcal.
Or even a portion of chip shop chips say £1 – £1.50
Cheaper still a Co-op toastie bread loaf is 85p, approx 500 calories for 4 slices.
Or even a portion of chip shop chips say £1 – £1.50
Cheaper still a Co-op toastie bread loaf is 85p, approx 500 calories for 4 slices.
I don't disagree, but I'm speaking of formal education, and that certainly doesn't apply to the sort of painting by the earlier years in our primaries
Then you aren't looking the outcomes and year by year age comparisons with countries who start their pupils much later, such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Japan and Germany. They are all very different in various ways, but do have that one common factor.
Our uniquely early start to schooling wasn't for educational reasons, it was solely done for economic reasons, including to greatly increase the income tax revenue. Hence it being done in parallel with an ever increasing expansion in day nursery provision to free women with young children for full time work. Perhaps you weren't aware that the same politicians have even spoken of earlier ages such as 3 years and even 2 years by some of the more extreme.
Ironically these practices we used to condemn as "baby farming" when done long ago in pre war Nazi Germany and the post war USSR, but from the 1980s on we gradually changed our tune as the short term economic benefits were realised.
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Picking Norway as an example
A barnehage is an institution for children below compulsory school age. Although often translated as nursery school or kindergarten
Children who reach the age of one by the end of August are entitled to a place in a barnehage from that August. Children who reach the age of one in September, October or November of that year are entitled to a place from the month they reach the age of one.
At the age of one, approximately 70% of children attend a barnehage, a figure which rises to 92% at the age of two, and 96% at the age of three. In 2016, the number of children in the Norwegian barnehage system totalled 282,649. 36% of those were aged 0-2, with the remaining 64% aged 3-6.
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Arrive at school at 8ish (anytime after 7:30 is acceptable).
School breakfast at 8:30 then Play
School lunch at 11:30 then Play
School snack at 2:30 then Play
Pick up before 4:30 but most kids are gone between 3:30 and 4:00 (the Norwegian workday ends at 3:00
The school system
Primary and lower secondary education covers children aged 6 to 15 or grades 1 to 10. Local authorities are required to offer before and after-school care for pupils in 1st to 4th grade. In 2016, 444,638 pupils were in primary education, with a further 184,637 at the lower secondary level.
A barnehage is an institution for children below compulsory school age. Although often translated as nursery school or kindergarten
Children who reach the age of one by the end of August are entitled to a place in a barnehage from that August. Children who reach the age of one in September, October or November of that year are entitled to a place from the month they reach the age of one.
At the age of one, approximately 70% of children attend a barnehage, a figure which rises to 92% at the age of two, and 96% at the age of three. In 2016, the number of children in the Norwegian barnehage system totalled 282,649. 36% of those were aged 0-2, with the remaining 64% aged 3-6.
What is a Barnehage?
Barnehage is the Norwegian term for kindergarten. Unlike the US kindergartens, this is where children age 1-5 spend their weekdays. In Norway all mothers are granted 1 year paid maternity leave so …
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Arrive at school at 8ish (anytime after 7:30 is acceptable).
School breakfast at 8:30 then Play
School lunch at 11:30 then Play
School snack at 2:30 then Play
Pick up before 4:30 but most kids are gone between 3:30 and 4:00 (the Norwegian workday ends at 3:00
The school system
Primary and lower secondary education covers children aged 6 to 15 or grades 1 to 10. Local authorities are required to offer before and after-school care for pupils in 1st to 4th grade. In 2016, 444,638 pupils were in primary education, with a further 184,637 at the lower secondary level.
Exactly, it's not school, it's play centred.
It has much in common with the other early years systems I mentioned that we were once very critical of.
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You do realise that wether for early years Reception Infant school or in Nursery school much of much of children’s learning will be through structured play.
Perhaps you weren't aware that the same politicians have even spoken of earlier ages such as 3 years and even 2 years by some of the more extreme.
Perhaps you aren't aware already most nurseries offer full day care sessions for 0–5 year olds, all year round. With 15-30 hours government funding for all eligible 2, 3 and 4 year olds.
Not sure what you're arguing for flecc - Are you saying kids should stay at home with mothers / not begin formal education till 6 YO soley based on academic outcomes? Missing early socialisation etc.
Perhaps you weren't aware that the same politicians have even spoken of earlier ages such as 3 years and even 2 years by some of the more extreme.
Perhaps you aren't aware already most nurseries offer full day care sessions for 0–5 year olds, all year round. With 15-30 hours government funding for all eligible 2, 3 and 4 year olds.
Not sure what you're arguing for flecc - Are you saying kids should stay at home with mothers / not begin formal education till 6 YO soley based on academic outcomes? Missing early socialisation etc.
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I am arguing that formal education should not begin before 6 years old but of course I'm not against other means of young socialisation. However, we even get that wrong, but that is another subject.
In turn I'm not sure what your intention was in your post in response to my mention of Norway. If it was to show they had more educational time in other ways, it failed, since you didn't take into account how short the Norwegian school day is. All start at 8.15 am and most of their children are heading for home at 1.10 pm, a lesser number of older children in their shorter secondary level at 1.55 pm. And those under 5 or 6 hours in school include three break periods, one for lunch and two play periods, both outdoors regardless of weather, entailing dressing up and down each time for their climate.
And we in England have a compulsory 11 years at school, while all the others I mentioned have 10 years, except Japan where it's 9 years, all with better educational outcomes than ours.
That is what I am arguing, once again we appear to be making an effort to fail, a national disease since WW2 at least.
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I really don't understand this Rashford - hungry child thing at all, the only starving child I've ever seen is on tv during one of those begging for cash ads.
He's the real world ... stand outside a Maccy Dee's or KFC at school kick out time and you'll see kid's coast up on their £1000 MTB's, dump them on the ground then go inside order a plateful of grub and stuff themselves while texting on their iPhones (latest model of course).
I have never ever seen a hungry child certainly not in my area, I'll accept their are less affluent places to live where the standard of living is lower than on the south coast but kid's starving .. I think not.
I know of family's with two cars and giant tv's in every room with a pool in the garden using food banks just to top up. I never agree with this Gov on anything they do but on this they are absolutely correct, when children begin stopping me in the street asking for money I'll do a U-turn I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong.
Come on let's see these starving kid's.
He's the real world ... stand outside a Maccy Dee's or KFC at school kick out time and you'll see kid's coast up on their £1000 MTB's, dump them on the ground then go inside order a plateful of grub and stuff themselves while texting on their iPhones (latest model of course).
I have never ever seen a hungry child certainly not in my area, I'll accept their are less affluent places to live where the standard of living is lower than on the south coast but kid's starving .. I think not.
I know of family's with two cars and giant tv's in every room with a pool in the garden using food banks just to top up. I never agree with this Gov on anything they do but on this they are absolutely correct, when children begin stopping me in the street asking for money I'll do a U-turn I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong.
Come on let's see these starving kid's.
One of my first experiences as a school governor (before free school meals) was the case of an infant school kid stealing Easter eggs on display at school.
Teachers rather than simply punish him, found on investigation that the poor kid was simply hungry. Othe cases have involved children found rifling through bins for scraps. This is a school that straddles the most affluent part of town with one of the poorest.
My own experience many decades ago was due to circumstances beyond my control was that I got free school dinners - and come to think of it I even enrolled in the school choir as the rehearsals afforded an early seating for lunch with second helpings. Not so much greed as my main motive but I think my mum was having a phase cooking pig's heads in her jumble sale pressure cooker for our hot evening meals and lashings of school dinners were preferable to pig brainz...
www.independent.co.uk
www.theguardian.com
Teachers rather than simply punish him, found on investigation that the poor kid was simply hungry. Othe cases have involved children found rifling through bins for scraps. This is a school that straddles the most affluent part of town with one of the poorest.
My own experience many decades ago was due to circumstances beyond my control was that I got free school dinners - and come to think of it I even enrolled in the school choir as the rehearsals afforded an early seating for lunch with second helpings. Not so much greed as my main motive but I think my mum was having a phase cooking pig's heads in her jumble sale pressure cooker for our hot evening meals and lashings of school dinners were preferable to pig brainz...
Hungry children are ‘taking apple cores from school bins’, headteacher says
Parents have come to school in tears saying they have no way of feeding their children
www.independent.co.uk
Child poverty: Pale and hungry pupils 'fill pockets with school food'
"We call it survival," head teachers say as they describe how poverty-hit pupils are forced to take food.
www.bbc.co.uk
UK food banks face record demand in coronavirus crisis
Charities call for urgent boost to benefits, especially for families with children
www.theguardian.com
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It's all relative. Of course virtually none in this country are starving, but what Rashford and co. are speaking of is children suddenly transitioned from a regular daily lunch to nowt. Some of them do have parents who genuinely cannot give them money to buy food, those people affected by covid in being down to 65% of normal income or less for example. That often doesn't even cover their bills which is why they are sliding into ever deeper debt and using food banks.
In a nutshell it's not the kids you see stuffing their overfed faces, it's the others, the minority you don't see who do need the support to avoid them having a day long empty stomach for anything from a week to six weeks during school holidays. That's very unhealthy in a developing youngster and can lead to an impaired health future.
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It doesn’t need to be Michelin Star dining. Food outlets have already said they are willing to provide basic wholesome meals within budget.
And while you're at it do away with food bank vouchers
Local food banks: Food banks near me and how to get a food bank referral
We explain how to find food banks near me and how you can get a food bank referral. Also find out how to access food banks without referral.
Say a basic baked tattie with butter and cheese at £4.90 (492 calories) - £15 a week will amply cover 3 of those a week giving a day off between meals.
I hear Cummings is looking for mifits like him as policy experts - Applicants are instructed to send a one-page email outlining their ideas to an unofficial account - ideasfornumber10@gmail.com - with the subject line “Job”.
Right up your street Tilson,
“If you want to figure out what characters around Putin might do, or how international criminal gangs might exploit holes in our border security, you don’t want more Oxbridge English graduates who chat about [French psychoanalyst Jacques] Lacan at dinner parties with TV producers and spread fake news about fake news,” Cummings wrote.
Stop acting daft.
I was going to post the same. can someone produce a rational explanation for this?
Yes, he meant anti-fraud or fraud detection system, a mistake of omission that's very common in speech, even by the best educated.
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Quick, let them know your opinion. It will save them having to hold the election.
I'm afraid they have to hold the election, with the complex American system it's the only way that allows either to claim they were cheated.
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Nicely truncated... Can you not see it was a register of the tricks being used by the GoP to limit voter registration in Democratic wards . Does the concept Gerrymandering mean nothing to you?.