Brexit, for once some facts.

RossG

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In the years ahead we'll get the real truth, newspapers will rake the muck alright, that's what they're best at....can't wait :)
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Here's a really good laugh
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/theresa-villiers-axed-from-intelligence-committee-for-disloyalty-3gws00lt7
Theresa Villiers axed from intelligence committee for disloyalty
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Imagine picking Grayling to do anything other than lie against the bottom of a front door as a draught excluder!
Grayling as "Chairman of an intelligence committee"?
Whatever Putin pays Cummings and Boris is the best investment in roubles ever.
How can Grayling possibly be considered for any position that requires him to do something? The man is a living brochure of how to make a fuckup. ******* up is a very broad spectrum, there are literally hundreds of thousands of ways to do it. By examining Grayling’s performance in government, you can find an example of every way it is possible to fuckup.

At first I couldn’t begin to imagine why Johnson would trust him to do anything, but then it struck me, Johnson is so incompetent himself, he can’t spot it in others. He’s literally not competent at identifying incompetence. We’re all ******.
 

flecc

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Flecc, I must disagree.
Of course you do, that's a given, but as usual you've got the wrong end of the stick.

My post was a complaint about the behaviour of the Guardian, not the relative efficiencies of our countries. The UK's inefficiency we know only too well and I detailed some of it in my post as the reason for the delays in reporting deaths outside hospitals, not defending the delays.

We need papers like the Guardian and the Independent to counterbalance the appalling distortions of the Mail and Express, so it's disappointing to see the Guardian muck raking history in the manner of the latter two papers.

All deaths are being reported now and have been for a long time, albeit with some delayed, so there was no necessity for the Guardian to dig back months to falsely make it look otherwise.
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flecc

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Johnson is so incompetent himself, he can’t spot it in others. He’s literally not competent at identifying incompetence.
He proved this in his time as London mayor with his disastrous original appointments, all four having to go. Link

Boris Johnson truly is a waste of space where doing anything useful is required.
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Barry Shittpeas

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I think Boris Johnson has a new role, he’s being cast as a sort of good news guy. He will hide for 6 days, dodging scrutiny and accountability, then he will appear to announce some welcome news. I’ve detected this pattern developing with the daily Downing Street briefings. He will appear next week and announce the scrapping of the 2 metre distancing rule. I think this is why the scientists have ****** off.
 
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How can Grayling possibly be considered for any position that requires him to do something? The man is a living brochure of how to make a fuckup. ******* up is a very broad spectrum, there are literally hundreds of thousands of ways to do it. By examining Grayling’s performance in government, you can find an example of every way it is possible to fuckup.

At first I couldn’t begin to imagine why Johnson would trust him to do anything, but then it struck me, Johnson is so incompetent himself, he can’t spot it in others. He’s literally not competent at identifying incompetence. We’re all ******.
I quite fancy grayling, I think of him as the proud face of modern conservatism and a potential figurehead for brexit. I think we should replace the statues of historic slavers with ones for grayling, cummings etc. I'm more or less in favour of any attempt to penetrate the dense, dense consciousness of the average voter.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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I quite fancy grayling, I think of him as the proud face of modern conservatism and a potential figurehead for brexit. I think we should replace the statues of historic slavers with ones for grayling, cummings etc. I'm more or less in favour of any attempt to penetrate the dense, dense consciousness of the average voter.
If a statue of Grayling was erected, it would fall over and concuss itself within a month of being placed.
 

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If a statue of Grayling was erected, it would fall over and concuss itself within a month of being placed.
I'd want it like the colossus of Rhodes (which, incidentally, is what Cecil was portrayed like in political satire of the time) bestriding the Thames in London. And Hancock's principles of statistics and Cummings guide to ethics prescribed for GCSE. if you're going to do something, as my grandfather used to say, you may as well do it properly.
 

RossG

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I quite fancy grayling, I think of him as the proud face of modern conservatism and a potential figurehead for brexit. I think we should replace the statues of historic slavers with ones for grayling, cummings etc. I'm more or less in favour of any attempt to penetrate the dense, dense consciousness of the average voter.
At least they would be easy to pull down being completely hollow inside :)
 

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Just wondering if a PM has ever sacked an entire cabinet, including him/herself?

Ministers are expecting a wide-ranging government reshuffle in September in which Boris Johnson will sack key figures who are judged to have underperformed in the Covid-19 crisis.
 
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oyster

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Last I heard, he's setting up to have a second crowd outside the stadium and he's going to make an additional speech to address the crowd outside.

Can you spot the difference:
Today, it is reported:

Donald Trump declared “the silent majority is stronger than ever before” at his comeback rally on Saturday, but thousands of empty seats appeared to tell a different story.

The outdoor, second crowd speech did not happen. No point relaying a speech to no-one.
 

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Today, it is reported:

Donald Trump declared “the silent majority is stronger than ever before” at his comeback rally on Saturday, but thousands of empty seats appeared to tell a different story.

The outdoor, second crowd speech did not happen. No point relaying a speech to no-one.
Yes the rally itself was only two-thirds full, apparently many of the requests for tickets were fakes filed by bored teens and even fans of Korean pop music playing a prank on the US president.

Perhaps the slightly more rational Trump supporters started to question the sense of attending when they found out they would have to sign a disclaimer that if they caught Covid19 in the rally they could not hold the Donald accountable.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Should the Libyan national currently in custody on suspicion of murder following the terrorist attack in Reading be released without charge? If he is convicted and jailed, it will add to the disproportionate number of BAME people in the prison system. Is that really what we want?
 

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Should the Libyan national currently in custody on suspicion of murder following the terrorist attack in Reading be released without charge? If he is convicted and jailed, it will add to the disproportionate number of BAME people in the prison system. Is that really what we want?
You appear to be assuming that Libyan nationality automatically implies BAME genetic background.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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You appear to be assuming that Libyan nationality auromatically implies BAME genetic background.
True, my mistake. So if the person is not BAME, should they be prosecuted in order to make inroads towards redressing the prison population balance, and if they are BAME, should they be released without charge for similar reasons?
 
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Should the Libyan national currently in custody on suspicion of murder following the terrorist attack in Reading be released without charge? If he is convicted and jailed, it will add to the disproportionate number of BAME people in the prison system. Is that really what we want?
What terrrorist attack? Dean Haydon declared it a terrorist attack. He's not a police commissioner, not an assistant police commissioner but a deputy assistant police commissioner. I suppose only a junior deputy assistant police commissioner would be a lower form of commissioner. In consequence Counter-Terrorism Policing South East will be taking over the investigation, probably pleased to have something to do to make them look important during no terrorist activity lockdown.

The details show it to look much more like the action of a deranged man and I won't be at all surprised if he ends up in a mental facility, ending another jobsworth created storm in a teacup.
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