Brexit, for once some facts.

mike killay

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McDonald's pay taxes? Really!

Tom
According to the News, Tax authorities around Europe are taking a hard look at Luxembourg, so companies are fleeing to other tax havens....................like the UK with its 20% corporation tax, soon to fall to 17.5%.
With all the world's dirty money being used to buy up London properties, the UK's reputation must stink.
 
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oldtom

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Does anyone know who this 'Juhnkers' is whose name crops up frequently in these pages?

Could it be someone related to that great European politician, Jean-Claude Juncker, possibly with a corrupted form of that surname?

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Kudoscycles

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I see that McDonald's restaurants have moved their tax base holding company from Luxembourg to the UK.

Yet more bad investment news attributable to BREXIT.
It was getting a bit hot for tax cheats in Luxembourg,also May has offered the lowest corporation taxes in Europe. She had to do that to keep businesses in the UK,post Brexit.
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Does anyone know who this 'Juhnkers' is whose name crops up frequently in these pages?

Could it be someone related to that great European politician, Jean-Claude Juncker, possibly with a corrupted form of that surname?

Tom (Checked by Google........well, actually it was Bing as I've always been a fan)
You know very well who he is referring to. You are just trying to sound superior, but failing to pull it off.

Take another look at my Rees Mogg video. That man is a class act.
 

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As normal good post kudos...
But..... You,ve asked many times what vision of post Brexit UK is...well is sort of similar to now but with greater sovereignty, more productive, better wages and more content citizens....yep perhaps not but what's your vision of UK post none brexit? Westminster disbanded eventually, us being a poir second and third to France and Germany ...
Nobody knows what country will look like either way. There are severe risks either way. Personally think risks staying outweigh leaving.
Referendum was never viewed as advisory, had it been such turn out would have been 30%...not 72..
Post Brexit...
Greater sovereignty....the ability to make our own laws,fair enough.
But May's great repeal bill will be used by right wingers to filter out all the employment laws.as an employer that wouldn't bother me but most workers like the protection of these EU laws,would you be happy with that.
More productive....if we make our country unattractive to the bright or hard working EU labour and there is already a skills shortage in the UK how would poorly educated Brits make us more productive. The deletion of Asian to UK import tariffs,with Asian low labour costs and high investment levels the Uk would be smashed by imports.
Better wages....see my note above,we would need to keep wages low to compete with the Asians. Many of the jobs done by EU immigrants were low skilled,hard work....Brits have openly said they don't want to do these jobs,they are mostly on minimum wage and that won't change.
More content citizens....only if their aspirations and lifestyle is improved,but Hammond has already indicated that he intends to look after big business not poor people,that he has already made poorer.

In the Tory manifesto the single market was meant to be retained...I remember Cameron clearly saying...'say yes to the single market'
Brits have always been good at producing luxury goods in small volumes but we are not competitive when the volumes rise....in my business I am good at selling our own bespoke products to Europeans,I don't see that situation changing. But if the Europeans or anywhere else in the world have direct access to Asia we won't be able to compete.
After Brexit,we will find it difficult to trade with Europe so the home market will become priority,there are some who want it that way....but you cannot turn back the clock and go back to the 'good ol days',in those days we didn't have China,did we ?????

No Brexit....Europe has problems,I am pleased we are not part of the Euro,Europe is too big to control the Euro in so many countries. Business is good at the moment,I have worked hard taking our businesses into Europe over the last 10 years,we had customers in all 27 states.
Our future in Europe would depend on us having a strong government to work alongside Germany,the Germans would have found it attractive to work alongside us. The whole of Europe has an immigrant problem that needed to be solved on an EU basis,we just needed to show that we were prepared to work together to achieve a common aim,but we have scrapped all that with our Brexit.
Those that gloat that we have started the destruction of the EU and others will follow are promoting the emergence of the far right and the sheep mentality that goes with that....we have been here before,it resulted in WW2.
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Kudoscycles

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You know very well who he is referring to. You are just trying to sound superior, but failing to pull it off.

Take another look at my Rees Mogg video. That man is a class act.
Rees Mogg is the extreme of right wingers,is this what you respect?
He was born in the wrong era,just see him addressing an Oswald Moseley march in the 1930's,bit of a dynosaur today.
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tillson

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Rees Mogg is the extreme of right wingers,is this what you respect?
He was born in the wrong era,just see him addressing an Oswald Moseley march in the 1930's,bit of a dynosaur today.
KudosDave

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oldtom

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You know very well who he is referring to. You are just trying to sound superior, but failing to pull it off.

Take another look at my Rees Mogg video. That man is a class act.
Only a retard would continue to mis-spell the name of a famous person after attention had been drawn to it previously.

I can easily dismiss the rest of your insulting post as it is perfectly in keeping with the rest of your juvenile playground behaviour toward those of us opposed to your fascist idols. Should you ever arrive at maturity, a massive shock awaits you if the lunatics you probably have wet dreams about ever manage to achieve your other dream of, not utopia but distopia.

Tom
 
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I disagree with you.
Tillson....I think I am correct that your business is aviation maintenance....Rees Mogg on 6 December ,2016 said that quote' Britain could slash environmental and safety standards to the level of India' ' if they are good enough for India,they would be OK for the U.K.' ....he wants to roll back the high EU standards.
His business is mining,I am sure none of us would want his attitudes accorded to safety standards in mining or aviation maintenance.
Still think this guy is a class act?
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Only a retard would continue to mis-spell the name of a famous person after attention had been drawn to it previously.

I can easily dismiss the rest of your insulting post as it is perfectly in keeping with the rest of your juvenile playground behaviour toward those of us opposed to your fascist idols. Should you ever arrive at maturity, a massive shock awaits you if the lunatics you probably have wet dreams about ever manage to achieve your other dream of, not utopia but distopia.

Tom
He speaks of juvenile playground behaviour whilst simultaneously using the word retard.

It's essential that you learn how to conduct yourself with more dignity.
 

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...Rees Mogg
Still think this guy is a class act?
KudosDave
I don't think he meant to say that, I think he has problems with three letter words.
 
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Kudos
Again a well argued post.
Your argument re staying is a little self defeating in that you suggest we are rightly not in euro. This was argued by many as a mistake. I also remember us coming out of ERM. Both issues prompted experts to declare we were financially doomed. In reality both issues have benefitted uk but I wonder how long we,d stay out of euro if we stayed in eu.

You argue quite affectively for our continued partial membership of EU. That simply cant last indefinitely. So choice is fully out or fully in....eventually.
 
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Kudoscycles

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Rees Mogg,Redwood and Bone are the right wingers who are controlling Theresa May,it beggars belief that these guys with their extreme right wing attitudes are going to be in charge of the U.K. Parliament,post Brexit.
Rees Mogg's attitudes to lowering our safety standards to that of India,is quite frightening.
What a horrible country the UK has revealed itself post the referendum.
To be honest I had no idea that these sort of people were still in power in the UK.,the old school tie clearly is not dead.
Just wondering what verbal gaffe Boris has to commit to get the sack from Theresa May,I think she is frightened to sack him, fear that he will come out as a Remainer and cause a lot of mischief to Brexit....he clearly wants the sack.
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Kudoscycles

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Kudos
Again a well argued post.
Your argument re staying is a little self defeating in that you suggest we are rightly not in euro. This was argued by many as a mistake. I also remember us coming out of ERM. Both issues prompted experts to declare we were financially doomed. In reality both issues have benefitted uk but I wonder how long we,d stay out of euro if we stayed in eu.

You argue quite affectively for our continued partial membership of EU. That simply cant last indefinitely. So choice is fully out or fully in....eventually.
Being in the Euro is not the same as being in the EU,we were right to be able to control our interest rates and in theory our currency.
The Euro is just too big,you cannot put same financial medicine on Greece or Italy as Germany or Holland.
Italy is an upcoming problem for the Euro,it would normally devalue but it can't because of the corset effect of the Euro.
The ERM was a stupid experiment for exactly the same reasons. Geoge Soros realised that the UK currency was overvalued and selling pressure would cause the link to collapse.
I have never wished to be part of the Euro.
KudosDave
 

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The Mail has for some reason seen this as a "Victory" for Brexit
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They're lovin' it! McDonald's is moving European base TO the UK despite warning against Brexit before the historic referendum
  • Fast food giant is set to pay tax on income from outside the US in Britain
  • Base is being moved from Luxembourg after EU launched probe into taxes
  • McDonald's warned before referendum that Brexit would be damaging
Before long this country will resemble the old Port Royal as the capital for Mafia and Tax dodgers to launder their money.
Of course lots of it will "Trickle down to the poor"
But not before Hell freezes over!
Brexit idea of Progress: giving a home to Tax Dodgers thrown out of the EU and Luxembourg (Beloved of Zlatan) so they can cut a cheapo Tax swindle here, but hey! we are so desperate any money no matter how doubtful will do.
How long before we end up as another Luxembourg?
 

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