One cannot catch Covid-19 from a statue.
And from the protesters point of view, some issues are more important than the slight risk of catching a virus. When the cause is worthwhile protesters have often risked being shot or beaten to death.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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And from the protesters point of view, some issues are more important than the slight risk of catching a virus. When the cause is worthwhile protesters have often risked being shot or beaten to death.
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They never gave a second thought to the risks involved. They were just swept along on a wave of hysteria for their own titillation. They don't even know what they want as an outcome and are simply experiencing a synthetic emotional overload.One cannot catch Covid-19 from a statue.
And from the protesters point of view, some issues are more important than the slight risk of catching a virus. When the cause is worthwhile protesters have often risked being shot or beaten to death.
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Of course not, they represent the complacency that lets evil persist. Protesters are the minority that achieve change and prevent the evil.
That well known criminal and ex convict Nelson Mandela for example, Mahatama Gandhi too.
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No, they represent civilised society and not a mob. The protesters are a minority and their minority view should be dealt with accordingly. There exists certain protocols for dealing with issues such as the Bristol statue and a prancing tribal frenzied mob isn't it.
Is that your way of telling me you pulled the legs off of donkeys
You could look at that another way Barry, if you had inherited that farm you may well be a rich farmer by now, or.....you could sell the land to a developer for a million quid, or....
Which don't work as I've just pointed out !!!!
I know you are a lost cause in your denial that racism exists, but perhaps you'd like to switch on the Media Show on BBC Radio 4 at 4.30 pm today, very soon. If that's not convenient you can instead listen later on this link.
The subject is systemic racism in the British Media, that racism you say doesn't exist.
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- - - turn it into an off-road area for illegal e-biking hooligans to race around on.
SW would love it.
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What about booting these over...Four Lads That Shook the World.
They took drugs and were arrested and penalised for it, given awards that some returned as a anti-establishment gesture, made discriminatory remarks relating sick and disabled people (hold you in his arms and you can feel his disease) reference to the way in which The Beatles were invited to visit the disabled and sick to pose for photos, something Lennon detested. I could but won't go on. Heroes or disgraceful members of society ?
They took drugs and were arrested and penalised for it, given awards that some returned as a anti-establishment gesture, made discriminatory remarks relating sick and disabled people (hold you in his arms and you can feel his disease) reference to the way in which The Beatles were invited to visit the disabled and sick to pose for photos, something Lennon detested. I could but won't go on. Heroes or disgraceful members of society ?
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This isn't about trial by public on petty issues. They didn't kill or harm large numbers, we can each ignore their behavour. I ignored them and everything they did, including their overrated "music".
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I’m not saying that racism is non existent, I am saying it isn’t as widespread as the present frenzy would suggest.
I think that to a significant extent, it’s being used by people to shift the responsibility for underperformance from themselves and onto others / the state. Blame racism rather than themselves for not being where they would like to be. This process isn’t confined to people from ethnic minorities, probably a greater proportion of white people blame everybody and everything for their own failings and if they could blame racism, they most likely would do so.
Racism is cheap currency nowadays, people throw the term around like confetti at a gypsy wedding.
People, especially young people, simply don’t want to put a shift of hard graft in to improve their situation, they’d rather blame something, it’s easy to blame and they like easy.
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Yes, no I can fully see that there wasnt any hostility before the weekend. Not.
Yes, that was a major flashback too but then (seems like yesterday) they seemed very hot whereas now through jaded middle aged eyes they seem very ordinaryYeah....but just look at the birds though
While there is truth in all the accusations you make, you are part of the problem in misrepresenting that as the major issue, thus ignoring the truth to suit your apparent inability to see the obvious.
It is not, it isn't even an issue. The issue is the constant underlying racism that is very real and painfully felt. I see it frequently, despite being in the least racist part of the UK.
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Thing is flecc these four had more power and influence over the masses, the young in particular than many if not most of the people whose statues are being toppled. Also of course their lives are very well documented and in living memory, what they said and did can be proven. Statues of people from the past whose lives and works good and bad are written down, but who knows how much is factually true.
People died constructing Brunel's great monuments of technology, I wonder if he or anyone knows how many ?
I wonder how many were black, did he know or care ?...do we ?...should we pull his statues down I wonder.
Just a matter of not securing a trade deal with the eu and a further 20% to 30% hit to GDP and all those leave voters will have gotten all they deserveBJ has once again achieved something world beating. The UK is likely to suffer the worst damage from the Covid-19 crisis of any country in the developed world, according to a report by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development.
UK economy likely to suffer worst Covid-19 damage, says OECD
Forecast slump in GDP of 11.5% will exceed falls by France, Italy, Spain and Germanywww.theguardian.com
there was a program on CH5 about Isambard and his dad Marc Isambard Brunel.
6 workers were killed in building the tunnel under the Thames.
2 workers were killed in building the Clifton suspension bridge.
Compare that to 10 workers killed building the Channel Tunnel.
God. Well, it would've been a great deal worse if they hadn't aged as badly as me!