Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

Sack him.

Police spoke to Dominic Cummings after Durham trip in lockdown

Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

There's no cause for me to stay, so I'm leaving ?​

I remember the times we were told that driving anywhere, even a few miles down the road, was a danger to others - if we had an accident, if we break down, we put anyone who helps us at risk. Not exactly believable that it is such a high risk, especially if we have been pretty isolated and have no symptoms. Driving London to Durham is likely to require a toilet and refuelling break. Doing so while actually ill with covid-19 is, in my view, wholly indefensible. Regardless whether you stay with in-laws/parents or in another property. Surely even driving if you feel that bad is much more damgerous than usual?

Childcare is hardly an excuse to someone who can easily afford to pay. It has been far harder for the many who can't afford any help.

ADDED:

Also interesting to speculate who knew where he was? Which senior people were aware he had broken the rules and yet did nothing about it? Possibly even aided and abetted. Surely there is a security issue in knowing where such high profile figures are?

 

[Nev]

Sack him.

Police spoke to Dominic Cummings after Durham trip in lockdown

Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

There's no cause for me to stay, so I'm leaving ?

I wonder if he will be able to spin his way out of this?

 

[oyster]

A future without Honor:

Boris Johnson forced to reduce Huawei’s role in UK’s 5G networks
PM set to shrink Chinese firm’s involvement to zero by 2023 after caving to backbench pressure
Boris Johnson has been forced to cave into to Conservative backbench rebels opposed to the presence of Huawei in 5G networks and has drawn up plans to reduce the Chinese company’s involvement to zero by 2023.

The prime minister’s retreat is designed to stave off what could have been an embarrassing defeat when his existing proposal to reduce Huawei to a 35% market share was to be voted on in the Commons.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/22/boris-johnson-forced-to-reduce-huaweis-role-in-uks-5g-networks

 

[oldgroaner]

A future without Honor:

Boris Johnson forced to reduce Huawei’s role in UK’s 5G networks
PM set to shrink Chinese firm’s involvement to zero by 2023 after caving to backbench pressure
Boris Johnson has been forced to cave into to Conservative backbench rebels opposed to the presence of Huawei in 5G networks and has drawn up plans to reduce the Chinese company’s involvement to zero by 2023.

The prime minister’s retreat is designed to stave off what could have been an embarrassing defeat when his existing proposal to reduce Huawei to a 35% market share was to be voted on in the Commons.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/22/boris-johnson-forced-to-reduce-huaweis-role-in-uks-5g-networks

Bunter is losing ground every day, how long before he's toast?

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Sack him.

Police spoke to Dominic Cummings after Durham trip in lockdown

Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

There's no cause for me to stay, so I'm leaving ?​

I remember the times we were told that driving anywhere, even a few miles down the road, was a danger to others - if we had an accident, if we break down, we put anyone who helps us at risk. Not exactly believable that it is such a high risk, especially if we have been pretty isolated and have no symptoms. Driving London to Durham is likely to require a toilet and refuelling break. Doing so while actually ill with covid-19 is, in my view, wholly indefensible. Regardless whether you stay with in-laws/parents or in another property. Surely even driving if you feel that bad is much more damgerous than usual?

Childcare is hardly an excuse to someone who can easily afford to pay. It has been far harder for the many who can't afford any help.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. What a shambolic example to set. How on earth can this government lead us through this crisis. First Johnson catches Coronavirus because he didn’t follow the advice of his own Chief Medical Officer, then his Health Secretary catches Coronavirus, then The Chief Medical Officer himself contracts it. Then a senior minister, Jenrick, ignores the advice the government is expecting the public to follow, and now we find out that The Prime Minister’s most trusted advisor not only catches Coronavirus, but drives across a big portion of the country whilst displaying symptoms! There is no way that Johnson did not know where Cummings was or what he was doing. He had to know. All this set against a backdrop of a catastrophic and unnecessary death rate in out care homes, catastrophic failures in providing PPE and a pathetic record of testing for Coronavirus. This must go down as the worst example of national leadership of all time. It’s absolutely unforgivable.

I suspect that Johnson’s tactic will be to continue hiding from the public, hiding from scrutiny, hiding from responsibility and hiding from his duties as the Prime Minister. And to think this **** imagines himself as Winston Churchill. Than man is a total failure, an non leader, a clusterfuck and a massively dangerous incompetent ****.

Boo for Boris, every Monday @ 8.

 

[sjpt]

Being as it’s Thursday and we are expected to clap for out careers, should we not have boo for our parliament? Say on a Monday evening at 8:00 pm, we could all go out and boo to mark the appalling mess and the lack of leadership from the government? We could call it Boo for Boris, although so little has been seen of him at this time of unprecedented national crisis, that many could be forgiven for not knowing who he is.

Go on, Boo for Boris every Monday at 8:00 pm. You know where it started first.

Yes, it started here ...

Brexit, for once some facts.

"SAGE" - yet another bit of propaganda itself. Used to imply that the committee is actually sage, and full of sage people. Many years ago, code names were expressly chosen to be neutral. Think of the Armilla patrol, Mulberry, etc. Now they come up with a word that at a headline level of...

www.pedelecs.co.uk

but I like your catchphrase 'Boo for Boris'; even punchier than 'Stay Alert'

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Bunter is losing ground every day, how long before he's toast?

I suppose whilst ever he is in hiding from his responsibilities and his duties as Prime Minister the **** can't make things worse. Every time he appears he spreads confusion and misinformation which makes things worse.

He had briefed TFL, and the DfT that lockdown measures were being eased on Monday the 18th and to make preparations for increased commuting from the 18th onwards. Johnson then appears on TV on Sunday the 10th and states that the measures are being eased in 5 hours time, Monday the 11th! Then his most senior minister goes on telly on Monday 11th and says no, it's not the 11th or the 18th, it Wednesday 13th. FFS!!! Stay hidden Johnson and don't come back.

 

[oyster]

I wonder if he will be able to spin his way out of this?

The Egyptian method: Denial.

Looks bad that the Guardian has known since 5th April. (And I do remember some story about number 10 refusing to say where he was.) It surely makes it even worse that they have been covering up for many weeks.

The Guardian first approached Downing Street for a comment in April after being told by a neighbour of Cummings’s parents that they had seen him at the Durham property on 5 April.

Hence:

Downing Street is facing accusations of a cover-up over Dominic Cummings’ trip to Durham at the height of the national lockdown, amid reports that No 10 knew he made the 264-mile journey after developing symptoms of coronavirus.

Opposition parties have called for the prime minister to sack his chief adviser over the apparent lockdown breach, which was revealed in an investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror.

Dominic Cummings clearly broke rules, says ex-police chief

Former Durham chief says it is obvious aide broke lockdown rules as No 10 faces accusations of cover-up

www.theguardian.com

 

[daveboy]

Well no 10 have said it was ok...

No 10 breaks silence to defend Dominic Cummings' 250-mile trip during lockdown

Cabinet ministers also give their support

www.independent.co.uk

 

[oyster]

Well no 10 have said it was ok...

No 10 breaks silence to defend Dominic Cummings' 250-mile trip during lockdown

Cabinet ministers also give their support

www.independent.co.uk

Which further undermines whatever credibility they have left.

 

[Danidl]

The Egyptian method: Denial.

Looks bad that the Guardian has known since 5th April. (And I do remember some story about number 10 refusing to say where he was.) It surely makes it even worse that they have been covering up for many weeks.

The Guardian first approached Downing Street for a comment in April after being told by a neighbour of Cummings’s parents that they had seen him at the Durham property on 5 April.

Hence:

Downing Street is facing accusations of a cover-up over Dominic Cummings’ trip to Durham at the height of the national lockdown, amid reports that No 10 knew he made the 264-mile journey after developing symptoms of coronavirus.

Opposition parties have called for the prime minister to sack his chief adviser over the apparent lockdown breach, which was revealed in an investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror.

Dominic Cummings clearly broke rules, says ex-police chief

Former Durham chief says it is obvious aide broke lockdown rules as No 10 faces accusations of cover-up

www.theguardian.com

I am not going to be party to this witchhunt, but if Cummings states that his wife phoned him saying she was ill, and she and her child needed minding, then what he did was not only legal,in terms of the guidelines, but could be seen as heroic!

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Which further undermines whatever credibility they have left.

They didn’t have any, but they have even managed to undermine that.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

but if Cummings states that his wife phoned him saying she was ill, and she and her child needed minding, then what he did was not only legal,in terms of the guidelines, but could be seen as heroic!

It’s a lie. She didn’t phone him. The man is a ****.

 

[Danidl]

It’s a lie. She didn’t phone him. The man is a ****.

..and you have the phone transcript?

 

[Danidl]

..From Today's Irish Times, neatly linking Brexit and CV19, together..two themes running on this thread...
Britain.

We exist on an archipelago, most of whose population lives on the eastern island. We share a common travel area. The air route between Dublin and London is, in normal times, the busiest in Europe. In the world we inhabited until recently, about a million trips were made from Britain to Ireland every year.
It is very hard to see how the coronavirus can ultimately be kept under control in Ireland if it remains on the loose across the Irish Sea. We may not be directly ruled by Boris Johnson, but we cannot escape the consequences of his follies and failings.
The brutal truth is that, while Ireland lies in the fair-to-middling range of countries when it comes to success in dealing with this crisis, Johnson’s Britain is among the worst. A rich country that had the advantage of precious weeks of warning about what was coming, a country that has an outstanding nexus of medical and scientific expertise, has nonetheless been unable to prevent many, many thousands of avoidable deaths.
Much as most of us would like to forget the nonsense that was dominating Anglo-Irish relationships before being overtaken by the new crisis, we have to remember that this terrible failure has been brought to us by the makers of Brexit. It is the farce being replayed as tragedy.
The virus found Britain at a moment of self-inflicted weakness. Its civil service had spent four years trying to deal what Johnson called in January “our great national drama” – not dealing with the pandemic but leaving the EU. Its political system had been riven by the same obsession.
It faced this new threat with a Tory cabinet purged of most of its talent and experience, chosen largely for conformity to the true faith. And above all it had at the very top a lazy, incompetent and staggeringly mendacious opportunist who has proved, to the surprise of no one who has ever worked with him, to be completely out of his depth.
Johnson is a brilliant self-publicist and a master of celebrity. He has a kind of genius for the creation and (until now) maintenance of a persona that most of his compatriots find charming. But a big part of that charm is ineptitude.

His fame outside of Tory and journalistic circles was created by his appearances on Have I Got News For You. His biographer Sonia Purnell wrote that: “Audiences thought him unusually game and somehow authentic; and that his monumental ineptitude when he became guest presenter – fluffing his lines on the autocue and awarding points to the wrong team – was endearing.”
The show of monumental ineptitude was not confined to the small screen. He carried it into the two main public offices he held before becoming prime minister. As mayor of London, he delegated most of the work to his deputies while he (to use a word from his own public school vocabulary) “spaffed” public money on ludicrous would-be monuments to himself, the Boris Bridge and Boris Island.


..Fintan O Toole

 

[vfr400]

Brexit wasn't so bad for Norton after all. Now that the crooked management has gone, we can look forward to seeing a lot of Nortons on the road and lots of income and jobs for our manufacturing industry. That probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Brexit.

Norton widen their net: Partnership with sportscar firm announced for latest dealership

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

..and you have the phone transcript?

Yes I do and I am listening to a recording of the telephone conversation right now. She did phone him, that much is true, but at no point in the conversation does she state that she or the child is ill. She asks him to pick up 2 litres of White Lightning, 4 ounces of Golden Virginian and a pack of self rolling papers. That's all. Next question.

 

[oyster]

I am not going to be party to this witchhunt, but if Cummings states that his wife phoned him saying she was ill, and she and her child needed minding, then what he did was not only legal,in terms of the guidelines, but could be seen as heroic!

Just bear in mind that if the house he went to had been in Wales, the police have every authority to stop him, fine him, and turn him round back out of Wales. And her.

The claim is that the only thing done by family was deliver things. What was so incredibly difficult to organise about that? For such a senior adviser to think that what he did was a sensible way of ensuring they get their groceries asks a lot about what his skills are.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Just bear in mind that if the house he went to had been in Wales, the police have every authority to stop him, fine him, and turn him round back out of Wales. And her.

The claim is that the only thing done by family was deliver things. What was so incredibly difficult to organise about that? For such a senior adviser to think that what he did was a sensible way of ensuring they get their groceries asks a lot about what his skills are.

His explanation is a lie, it doesn’t require any further analysis. It’s what they do, lie in the first instance and then hide from scrutiny until it goes away.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Brexit wasn't so bad for Norton after all. Now that the crooked management has gone, we can look forward to seeing a lot of Nortons on the road and lots of income and jobs for our manufacturing industry. That probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Brexit.

Norton widen their net: Partnership with sportscar firm announced for latest dealership

I wish I could share your optimism, I really do. I voted for Brexit, but have realised that this bunch of useless ***** can’t deliver it. Do you honestly think this government is capable of making a national success of Brexit?