it will just go around the rest of the world and fly back in with the tourists.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Well I never - Deloitte appear to have screwed up.
Women’s fashion manufacturer to make reusable gowns for NHS
Derbyshire factory’s products could replace 1.25m disposable gowns in local hospitals
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“We offered our suggestion of a reusable gown in this exact fabric four weeks ago. It’s a great pity the Deloitte team, responsible for procurement of gowns [across the NHS] didn’t grasp the potential of reusable equipment and has shown no interest in our British manufacturing capacity.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/28/womens-fashion-manufacturer-to-make-reusable-gowns-for-nhs
Women’s fashion manufacturer to make reusable gowns for NHS
Derbyshire factory’s products could replace 1.25m disposable gowns in local hospitals
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“We offered our suggestion of a reusable gown in this exact fabric four weeks ago. It’s a great pity the Deloitte team, responsible for procurement of gowns [across the NHS] didn’t grasp the potential of reusable equipment and has shown no interest in our British manufacturing capacity.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/28/womens-fashion-manufacturer-to-make-reusable-gowns-for-nhs
There is a very simple solution for that also.. trusted visitors only, and quarantine for the rest
If he isn't fit enough to face one very civilised and humane adult at social distance, just why are we expected to believe he is ebullient, raring to go, in charge and able to run the country?
No 10 unable to say if Boris Johnson will face Keir Starmer at PMQs
Labour not yet told that PM is fit enough for first Commons session with its new leader
No 10 unable to say if Boris Johnson will face Keir Starmer at PMQs
Labour not yet told that PM is fit enough for first Commons session with its new leader
Boris is still suffering from a back problem, there's a yellow streak right up it.
the bailiffs took some ones car about a week ago 3 of them pulled it on to a flat bed and took it away.
they still want there money then pmsl.
That is about the same level of faith I have in official testing statistics - with my suggestion that numbers will drop either side of "end of the month". But Matt draws better and makes it funny.
the real issue for science is do we develop immunity against CV? if we do, how long for?
but if we don't? what then?
OK so weak and small:
Professor Dame Angela McLean, the UK deputy chief scientific adviser, confirmed that Sage recommended that there was “weak evidence of a small effect in which a face mask can prevent a source of infection going from somebody who is infected to the people around them”.
McLean said: “Under our current circumstances, anybody who has symptoms really must stay at home ... but we are also concerned that some people are infected who don’t have symptoms, or maybe don’t have symptoms yet, and that is the reason that Sage has put so much effort into looking at this question,” she said.
“But the answer is clear that the evidence is weak and the effect is small, and we have passed that on to our colleagues in government with which to make a decision.”
But given the current toll, even a very small effect could make a worthwhile difference. Let us suggest that they could prevent just one person a day from going down with covid-19, that is worth a lot to that person and their family. Especially if the person doesn't then die from it.
The only thing that would make me agree with continuing not to recommend masks is evidence that they do actually worsen the situation.
And they still keep repeating about people with symptoms:
One government source said there was still clear concern among some ministers about changing the UK advice at this stage, when people with symptoms are being advised to stay at home anyway.
Are they entirely without brains? The issue is very largely people who are symptomless.
I belong to that group of people who believe that "follow the science" (or however they wish to put it) mandates changing advice if the science shows the need. Not changing it is absolutely wrong.
Professor Dame Angela McLean, the UK deputy chief scientific adviser, confirmed that Sage recommended that there was “weak evidence of a small effect in which a face mask can prevent a source of infection going from somebody who is infected to the people around them”.
McLean said: “Under our current circumstances, anybody who has symptoms really must stay at home ... but we are also concerned that some people are infected who don’t have symptoms, or maybe don’t have symptoms yet, and that is the reason that Sage has put so much effort into looking at this question,” she said.
“But the answer is clear that the evidence is weak and the effect is small, and we have passed that on to our colleagues in government with which to make a decision.”
But given the current toll, even a very small effect could make a worthwhile difference. Let us suggest that they could prevent just one person a day from going down with covid-19, that is worth a lot to that person and their family. Especially if the person doesn't then die from it.
The only thing that would make me agree with continuing not to recommend masks is evidence that they do actually worsen the situation.
And they still keep repeating about people with symptoms:
One government source said there was still clear concern among some ministers about changing the UK advice at this stage, when people with symptoms are being advised to stay at home anyway.
Are they entirely without brains? The issue is very largely people who are symptomless.
I belong to that group of people who believe that "follow the science" (or however they wish to put it) mandates changing advice if the science shows the need. Not changing it is absolutely wrong.
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We are dealing here with idiots than only look at this situation from a cost on the present day bill basis, not that in the long term.
Confirmation that Boris's monkey was interfering with the SAGE deliberations
Perhaps realising that one day he will have to answer for his crimes?
Perhaps realising that one day he will have to answer for his crimes?
Where is that from OG?Confirmation that Boris's monkey was interfering with the SAGE deliberations
Perhaps realising that one day he will have to answer for his crimes?
The date of that is a bit concerning...
the real criminal is lazy Boris.
He is too lazy to think for the country and rely on another guy just as useless as the rest of his cabinet.
when the going gets tough, Boris looks for a place to hide.
He shouldn't put himself forward for the top job in the first place.
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it's difficult to ask those scientists advising the government not to do their employer's bidding.
They are political appointments.
They have been told to restrict their views to those compatible with the available supplies.
Basically, if you don't have anything positive to say, shut your mouth.
As I’ve mentioned before, the FFP3 mask allows unfiltered exhaled air straight through the valve. As far as I can see, the FFP3 does nothing to protect anyone except the wearer. The valve is fitted to deliberately allow the air we exhale to exit the mask quickly, and thus make it more comfortable to wear. Without the valve, the air has to pass back through the filter, which causes a buildup of condensation on the inside surface.
To pretend that masks offer negligible protection is a crime. Dame Lady Cuntwhistle, or whoever, has been bought and paid for by the government. She is deliberately telling people not to wear them to save the government from further embarrassment over PPE. She is putting politics ahead of her duty to save lives.
The answer is to look at a competent government like Germany and encourage the widespread wearing of masks in combination with making them available.
The members do not get paid.
And you know what they say about free advice being worth what you pay for it.
And you have to ask why anyone would accept nomination as an adviser? They must see some benefit - whether a higher profile, being seen to do what your boss wants you to do, being visible when grants and contracts are awarded, etc. (I'm not even meaning they are individually doing anything terrible - it is just how things happen.)