Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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Send whatever is needed. Send 10 aircraft if necessary and land them at airfields around the country to speed up distribution. There are many aircraft on the ground, so carrying capacity isn’t an issue. This is a national emergency.
I was just meaning that it is so incredibly feasible. Unless something else is using up C-17 capacity?
 

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But restaurants ,take aways etc can start up. People wearing masks on surface transport.. but only when testing is quick and sure
Sit down restaurants could liquidise everying into into a consommé able to be slurped through N95 masks...

My local Chinese takeaway has been doing a roaring trade esp with home deliveries for folk who can't cook or bored with band on toast - they're taking on staff to cope with demand. I watched with facination as they had a Polish girl taking orders and this led to all sort of confusion with the English / Chinese translation over the phone going to the kitchen.
 

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"Asked about the delayed shipment from Turkey, the Department for Healthand Social Care referred queries to the Foreign Office, which was contacted for comment."

Wonder if its 'Made in Turkey' stock or coming via Turkey from elsewhere - whatever has happened the govt are keeping stum over the reason for delay. Wonder if Erdoğan guzumped the price or attached something to the deal, and can't see any news about it on Turkish websites (theyre using a partial lockdown with a claimed 2k deaths)
 

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Meanwhile, just what is Johnson doing? The PM, who is five COBRA meetings short of a pandemic, at one and the same time is said to be doing things and yet nothing has changed, from our PoV.
 

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"Mendez says she spent 10 days on the ventilator thinking she was a character in the Netflix show On My Block. Her imagined exploits on the “show” felt real, but everything happening in real life felt like a dream. When she finally came to, the hospital wing was covered in Christmas decorations. She assumed she’d been in a coma for almost a year, until a nurse told her they were only an April Fools prank. "

Wonder if Boris also thinks it's all a bad dream / all over and he's happily living the life as World King in his secluded mansion...

 

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The PPE debacle continues. Meanwhile, the NHS medical professional death toll rises above 30.

Yesterday’s lie was, tonnes of PPE equipment arriving from Turkey today. Today’s lie is, there has been a delay and it’s not arriving. No holding to account or difficult questions from the media, as usual.

UK manufacturers are screaming at the government to give them the go ahead to start making gowns and other PPE. They are being met with silence. No one is talking to them. We have a good hi-tec textile industry in the U.K and we could do this.

Why haven’t they sent RAF transporters to Turkey anyway? If they’d left this morning, they could have been back by late afternoon with the gear. A fleet of trucks could have them got it out to hospitals. Absolute *****.

That **** Gavin Williamson looked like a small boy who’d weed himself, when he hosted the Downing Street briefing this afternoon. None of them look in control or to have a handle on the situation.

The idiots have now placed procurement and distribution of the PPE in the hands of a firm of accountants. It would be funny if it wasn’t costing lives. They’ve got to let go and let people who know what they are doing take charge.
Yes BS. The Irish Gov sent an aer lingus plane all the way to China a fortnight ago. It was a national event in a sense, It was about 2 hrs on the ground there and flew back. First time an aer lingus plane was in Asia..I think.
The UK response is frighteningly inept . I of course worry ,having 2 brothers and a sister there, with their families ,and also cousins..
 

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if I understand correctly, the vaccine that the Oxford group is proposing is a mRNA vaccine. It's cheap and easy to produce but there are reasons why none of them has been approved.
why do I have a bad feeling about this?

But is it CHEAP ? that is what the government wants
 
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There really is no cure for the criminal stupidity of the Express
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Boris Johnson has NOT mishandled coronavirus response - No10 issue extraordinary statement
BORIS JOHNSON has been accused of mishandling the UK's response to the coronavirus crisis, but Downing Street has published an extraordinary statement defending the Prime Minister.

And the rabid alleged to be genuine readers comments that support the party line
 
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The Daily Mail is trying to present Boris as the "good guy"
Boris Johnson is 'reluctant to end lockdown over fears of a second wave of coronavirus infections' - despite lowest daily death toll for two weeks - but Sunak and Gove want to 'run hot' and ease restrictions sooner
 
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oyster

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There really is no cure for the criminal stupidity of the Express
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Boris Johnson has NOT mishandled coronavirus response - No10 issue extraordinary statement
BORIS JOHNSON has been accused of mishandling the UK's response to the coronavirus crisis, but Downing Street has published an extraordinary statement defending the Prime Minister.

And the rabid alleged to be genuine readers comments that support the party line
Utter bilge. The number 10 statement.

Let us look at one single issue. Building Nightingale hospitals.

If it was appropriate to do so, due to known lack of capacity, why did they leave it so late? It wasn't something, like lockdown, that should be left until some precise magical point.

By 8th March, when covid-19 issues were becoming ominously clear, where was his focus?

"What I've been doing since the flooding began is co-ordinating the national response but also looking at what we can do in the next months and years to ensure this country really is ready to cope with the impacts of flooding."

Mr Johnson received a mixed reaction as he spoke to residents affected by the floods and said he would "get Bewdley done".


We can all understand there was the flooding emergency but his words suggest he has nothing else on his mind whatsoever but flooding.
 

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But is it CHEAP ? that is what the government wants
yes, relatively speaking.
Sarah Gilbert is co-founder of Vaccintech.
I read somewhere that they only need £100 Mils injection to develop their universal flu/Mers/Covid19 vaccine.
I guess the long term payout is the licence for their modified virus vector.
 

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I note that the EU discusses those who are 65 and older, whereas the UK continues referring to over 70.

Executive summary
Overall, large increases in COVID-19 cases and deaths continue to be reported from the EU/EEA countries and the UK. In addition, in recent weeks, the European all-cause mortality monitoring system showed all-cause excess mortality above the expected rate in Belgium, France, Italy, Malta, Spain, Switzerland and the United Kingdom, mainly in the age group of 65 years and above.


 
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I've just been listening to the CEO or Roche talking live on the CNBC TV channel. He said they have developed a reliable anti-body test that will be in production by May. It is a blood test and so will not be for people to use at home themselves.

The test in the lab only takes a few hours but obviously that does not include the logistics (taking blood sample, sending it to the lab and informing the donor).

They have the structure to scale this test up fairly rapidly, and should be able to do several million a day by June. I think this was in the USA though where they have facilities. Our Government probably wont want to use them because they are "European".
 

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