Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

So will any new-fangled ventilators be usable? (Ironically, at least trying to see if you can manufacture them is one of the few things I support. But only because of the dreadful situation we were allowed to get into. And I have deep misgivings about how they have done it.)

UK scraps plans to buy thousands of BlueSky ventilators

Model by Renault and Red Bull F1 teams found unsuitable for complex treatment of coronavirus

 

[oldgroaner]

BBC reports about face masks. Why the repeated use of the word "could"? Patently obvious that they could change guidance. It is their own guidance so they can change it! But would they? Are they already planning to?

And if they have seen "more persuasive" data, what is holding them back?

The UK's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance told the daily Downing Street news conference an ongoing review was considering the guidance on whether people should wear face masks.
Asked by the BBC's David Shukman whether the government could change its advice to the British public on wearing face masks while outside, Sir Patrick said that, if evidence supported it, the guidance could change.
He added that the government had already seen "more persuasive" data suggesting masks can stop a person passing the virus to someone else, rather than preventing them from catching it.

Holding them back?
A lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to decision making

 

[oyster]

Once, twice, three times a failure...

UK missed three chances to join EU scheme to bulk-buy PPE

Britain not part of €1.5bn order for kit to protect against Covid-19 despite shortages in NHS
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/uk-missed-three-chances-to-join-eu-scheme-to-bulk-buy-ppe

 

[oldgroaner]

Once, twice, three times a failure...

UK missed three chances to join EU scheme to bulk-buy PPE

Britain not part of €1.5bn order for kit to protect against Covid-19 despite shortages in NHS
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/uk-missed-three-chances-to-join-eu-scheme-to-bulk-buy-ppe

They don't want help from Johnny Foreigners, it might upset the knuckle dragger Brexit fans

 

[oldgroaner]

Another straw to clutch at
"Another abstract published on 8th April by The Queen Elizabeth Hospital Foundation Trust, King’s Lynn, University of East Anglia and Anglia Ruskin University : https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1 Key findings: ’We have identified the mean levels of vitamin D for 20 Europeans Countries’ ’The mean level of vitamin D (average 56mmol/L, STDEV 10.61) in each country was strongly associated with the number of cases/1M (mean 295.95, STDEV 298.73 p=0.004, respectively with the mortality/1M (mean 5.96, STDEV 15.13, p < 0.00001).’ ’Conclusions: We believe, that we can advise Vitamin D supplementation to protect against SARS-CoV2 infection.’ "

I wonder!

 

[flecc]

It is, surely, only a place of work if it is being used for work? And we are told he isn't working. Ergo, it isn't a place of work, just a residence. And not his primary residence.

No I don't think the classification can be changed minute by minute just to catch someone out. Chequers is very much a place of work in which cabinet, Cobra and diplomatic meetings are often held. So is Downing Street. Both have accommodation, so very much "at work" facilities where the PM is always on call in emergencies, night and day, even if officially off sick. So in fairness they are always at work, wherever they are.

Churchill had the same, wartime bunker living facilities where he was always on call, even when he was sozzled.

Anyway in Johnson's case, doctors orders can come into it for recuperation, Chequers potentially being more restful and healthy than Downing Street in Central London.

I hate Boris Johnson as much as anyone, but there's times when fair play comes first.
.

 

[oyster]

Chequers in Kent

The only Chequers I know is in Buckinghamshire!

Chevening?

 

[oyster]

NHS has done 352,974 tests, 88,621 confirmed cases (25.1%) 11,329 deaths (12.8% of confirmed cases)
Highest daily tests: 18,000 a day
Still looking for a reliable antibody test.
No hope for 100,000 tests a day by the end of this month.
Maybe the end of May.

Do you believe it?

Downing Street has insisted it remains on target to ensure 100,000 tests a day for coronavirus by the end of the month – despite the latest figures showing only a fifth of this number are being carried out.

 

[flecc]

The only Chequers I know is in Buckinghamshire!

Chevening?

No, I was day dreaming when typing that, thinking of another country home in large grounds in Kent.
.

 

[flecc]

Downing Street has insisted it remains on target to ensure 100,000 tests a day for coronavirus by the end of the month – despite the latest figures showing only a fifth of this number are being carried out.

Clever, they didn't specify the month.
.

 

[oyster]

Another straw to clutch at
"Another abstract published on 8th April by The Queen Elizabeth Hospital Foundation Trust, King’s Lynn, University of East Anglia and Anglia Ruskin University : https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1 Key findings: ’We have identified the mean levels of vitamin D for 20 Europeans Countries’ ’The mean level of vitamin D (average 56mmol/L, STDEV 10.61) in each country was strongly associated with the number of cases/1M (mean 295.95, STDEV 298.73 p=0.004, respectively with the mortality/1M (mean 5.96, STDEV 15.13, p < 0.00001).’ ’Conclusions: We believe, that we can advise Vitamin D supplementation to protect against SARS-CoV2 infection.’ "

I wonder!

I have seen many mentions of vitamin D in relation to covid-19.

Several issues. One being that getting from low to high (in a timescale likely to be useful for the current situation) requires high doses and there are lots of potential problems with that. Like hypercalcaemia. Some people really cannot take any vitamin D supplements at all!

 

[oldgroaner]

Clever, they didn't specify the month.
.

Or the year!

 

[oldgroaner]

I have seen many mentions of vitamin D in relation to covid-19.

Several issues. One being that getting from low to high (in a timescale likely to be useful for the current situation) requires high doses and there are lots of potential problems with that. Like hypercalcaemia. Some people really cannot take any vitamin D supplements at all!

My wife is on two 1500 mg Adcal D3 tablets a day and has been for four years!
They contain the equivalent of 10 micrograms of Vitamin D3 in each tablet

 

[flecc]

I have seen many mentions of vitamin D in relation to covid-19.

Several issues. One being that getting from low to high (in a timescale likely to be useful for the current situation) requires high doses and there are lots of potential problems with that. Like hypercalcaemia. Some people really cannot take any vitamin D supplements at all!

Indeed, vitamin D supplements are very ineffective. I'm always low in old age, despite plenty of time outdoors, so was once prescribed 40,000 units on a specified day each of four weeks.

For the last three years I've taken a 1000 unit tablet every morning, but no idea if it corrects the deficiency. Faith healing!
.

 

[oyster]

My wife is on two 1500 mg Adcal D3 tablets a day and have been for four years!

In another part of online, we see lots of people given calcium for no good reason. (Not saying that is the case for your wife - I couldn't possibly comment.)

Some used to get Adcal D3 as there were extremely limited options that could be prescribed so they'd get the calcium in Adcal whether or not they needed it.

Adcal D3 doesn't have much D3 - just 400 IU. Again, from somewhere else, I know lots who take something like 3 to 5,000 IU a day - long term.

But intolerance of vitamin D is a real problem. Sun often cannot provide enough on its own.

If vitamin D is so effective, they might find more resistance to being told not to sunbathe in parks, etc.

Just taken my daily 3000 IU spray (which I all too often forget).

 

[oldgroaner]

Brexit Shambles@brexit shambles

The Home Secretary is confident Matt Hancock will deliver his target of three hundred thousand, thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand daily tests by the end of Apriljanuemberfebruary.......

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1249693469733421056%E2%80%A6

Quote Tweet

Department of Health and Social Care@DHSCgovuk
· 5h
As of 9am 13 April, 367,667 tests have concluded, with 14,506 tests on 12 April. 290,720 people have been tested of which 88,621 tested positive. As of 5pm on 12 April, of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus, 11,329 have sadly died. https://pic.twitter.com/AijH4hfOV1

Replying to @brexit_sham

oldgroaner@oldgroaner

In the meantime the daily briefings are achieving the Government's objective of leaving the public even more confused as to what is going wrong than they were at the start of the broadcast

 

[oyster]

As of 9am 13 April, 367,667 tests have concluded, with 14,506 tests on 12 April. 290,720 people have been tested of which 88,621 tested positive. As of 5pm on 12 April, of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus, 11,329 have sadly died. https://pic.twitter.com/AijH4hfOV1

Hmm, weasel words?

Possibly more obvious here:

A total of 11,329 patients have died in UK hospitals after testing positive for coronavirus, the UK’s Department of Health said, up by 717 in 24 hours.

If someone dies before being tested positive, they are not in that total. Given how many issues there have been (and still are) with testing, that might be quite a lot.

 

[oyster]

Are DT's mental and intellectual problems contagious?

The US is nearing the peak of its outbreak, according to the director of the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, Robert Redfield, who told NBC: “You’ll know when you’re at the peak when the next day is actually less than the day before. We are stabilising right now.”

Either: D'Oh!
Or: No, you know when you have passed the peak, not when you are at the peak.

(And even then, there is are all the unacknowledged assumptions about collection and analysis of the figures, and that numbers will no go up again.)

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Brexit Shambles@brexit shambles

The Home Secretary is confident Matt Hancock will deliver his target of three hundred thousand, thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand daily tests by the end of Apriljanuemberfebruary.......

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1249693469733421056%E2%80%A6

Quote Tweet

Department of Health and Social Care@DHSCgovuk
· 5h
As of 9am 13 April, 367,667 tests have concluded, with 14,506 tests on 12 April. 290,720 people have been tested of which 88,621 tested positive. As of 5pm on 12 April, of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus, 11,329 have sadly died. https://pic.twitter.com/AijH4hfOV1

Replying to @brexit_sham

oldgroaner@oldgroaner

In the meantime the daily briefings are achieving the Government's objective of leaving the public even more confused as to what is going wrong than they were at the start of the broadcast

The briefing are a disgrace. Each one makes me increasingly angry. I don’t think I can watch them anymore, they’re not doing me any good.

 

[soundwave]

figure 7a: The majority of winter months had lower counts of mean daily deaths than the five-year average in England
Mean number of daily deaths each month (based on death occurrences) and mean monthly temperatures, August 2018 to July 2019


6.Deaths registered in the year-to-date, week 1 to 12


Figure 4: The number of deaths in the year-to-date was lower than the five-year average
Year-to-date analysis for deaths registered in England and Wales, 2020

Deaths - Office for National Statistics

Deaths broken down by age, sex, area and cause of death.

www.ons.gov.uk

what virus pmsl we cant even kill more ppl than the avg die anyway, if i go jump off the motor way bridge and get hit buy 3 lorry's if i test positive for cv10 thats why i died.

bull $hit, there are 66 million ppl in the uk and 8 billion on this planet the numbers do not add up.

every one has been fkn brain washed buy non stop lies 247 non stop that ppl can not even think straight anymore and will sit in there box and just starve to death.

Disabled man starved to death after DWP stopped his benefits

Disabled man starved to death after DWP stopped his benefits

MPs call for inquiry into case of Errol Graham, 57, who weighed 28.5kg when he was found dead

www.theguardian.com

and now 1.5 million sheeple will be on benefits they will be lambs to the slaughter the dwp will kill!