Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

No need to panic chaps Divine intervention is on the way

AACHEN, Germany (Reuters) - Germany’s Aachen Cathedral has dug out the relics of little-known Saint Corona, patron saint of resisting epidemics, from its treasure chamber and is polishing up her elaborate shrine to go on show once the coronavirus pandemic has passed.
In there an "On" button somewhere in that gadget? it's styling is reminiscent of something Dyson designed

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

It didn’t take long. I suppose it would be more accurate if they had said, save ordinary retired old people.

From the Mail this morning:

We have to ask ourselves a rather shocking question. Is it right that, in order to save the lives of mostly elderly people (I accept that some younger people are at risk, but they constitute a comparatively small minority), the future lives of millions should be devastated?

 

[Woosh]

It didn’t take long. I suppose it would be more accurate if they had said, save ordinary retired old people.

From the Mail this morning:

We have to ask ourselves a rather shocking question. Is it right that, in order to save the lives of mostly elderly people (I accept that some younger people are at risk, but they constitute a comparatively small minority), the future lives of millions should be devastated?

Lockdown is needed to help the NHS, and indirectly the old as much as the young.
all people who are not at risk at the moment will be sooner or later.
It's only right that we all have to share the cost of supporting one another while looking for a cure.
Some measures like those taken in the lockdown will pay off, some won't but there is no simple way to know how it is going to work.
Personally, I think lockdown works in this first wave of corona, not the next wave when the cold weather returns.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Lockdown is needed to help the NHS, and indirectly the old as much as the young.
all people who are not at risk at the moment will be sooner or later.
It's only right that we all have to share the cost of supporting one another while looking for a cure.
Some measures like those taken in the lockdown will pay off, some won't but there is no simple way to know how it is going to work.
Personally, I think lockdown works in this first wave of corona, not the next wave when the cold weather returns.

When the second wave hits in the winter, you would hope that the NHS is better prepared. It seems to be the sudden and unexpected rise in people needing ICU care which is catching health systems out.

My fear is complacency. When this first wave diminishes during the summer, everyone will be whooping, high-fiveing and back slapping. As is they way in this country, if you don’t use the fire extinguishers, and they don’t make a profit, they chuck them out. I fear they will do the same with the additional ICU capacity, only to be caught out again in winter 2020.

 

[Danidl]

Prince Charles is isolating at Balmoral with Covid-19.

Prince Andrew is isolating at Windsor with Jennifer-14.

Tommie, you cynical Royalist, you!.

 

[Danidl]

Lockdown is needed to help the NHS, and indirectly the old as much as the young.
all people who are not at risk at the moment will be sooner or later.
It's only right that we all have to share the cost of supporting one another while looking for a cure.
Some measures like those taken in the lockdown will pay off, some won't but there is no simple way to know how it is going to work.
Personally, I think lockdown works in this first wave of corona, not the next wave when the cold weather returns.

Woosh.. Forlorn Hope again

 

[oldgroaner]

Even better news

It didn’t take long. I suppose it would be more accurate if they had said, save ordinary retired old people.

From the Mail this morning:

We have to ask ourselves a rather shocking question. Is it right that, in order to save the lives of mostly elderly people (I accept that some younger people are at risk, but they constitute a comparatively small minority), the future lives of millions should be devastated?

And we have a right to ask, why is this fascist rag still in business?
And to it's half witted readers

Are you prepared to sacrifice your parents to avoid inconvenience?

 

[oldgroaner]

From Parody Boris Johnson
"I'm delighted to confirm a contract with Tim Martin of Wetherspoons for 100,000 face masks made from old bar towels. "

 

[oldgroaner]

On Twitter

“The government should have given funding to existing ventilator manufacturers, and existing companies like us.” Andrew Raynor of MEC Medical, a medical parts manufacturer, says “nothing” happened when he contacted the govt offering to make #Covid19 ventilators

Hayley@HayleyBob4

They gave it to Pro-brexit Dyson instead.

My response

oldgroaner

@oldgroane

Replying to
@HayleyBob4

It sucks!

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Even better news

And we have a right to ask, why is this fascist rag still in business?
And to it's half witted readers

Are you prepared to sacrifice your parents to avoid inconvenience?

I think it’s just non-wealthy old people they want to exterminate. They don’t have a problem with the wealthy ones. It’s a, wealthy step to the left, non-wealthy move right please, kind of thing. It’s been used before in Germany.

 

[oldgroaner]

A voice in the wilderness
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/26/gordon-brown-calls-for-global-government-to-tackle-coronavirus
Gordon Brown calls for global government to tackle coronavirus
Ex-PM at centre of 2008 banks rescue suggests taskforce of leaders and health experts

That won't go down well with Brexiteers, will it?

 

[oldgroaner]

Sky News understands that officials are looking to convert around 10 more sites across the country into makeshift #coronavirus hospitals similar to the ExCel exhibition centre in London https://trib.al/dluTTOm


Replying to @SkyNews and @brexit_sham
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Why not use the Palace of Westminster? the squatters have quit and it might for once be used to save lives not squander them on mad eugenics schemes.

 

[oldgroaner]

I think it’s just non-wealthy old people they want to exterminate. They don’t have a problem with the wealthy ones. It’s a, wealthy step to the left, non-wealthy move right please, kind of thing. It’s been used before in Germany.

You have to wonder which Brexiteer has won the contract for mass crematoria

 

[oyster]

Sky News understands that officials are looking to convert around 10 more sites across the country into makeshift #coronavirus hospitals similar to the ExCel exhibition centre in London https://trib.al/dluTTOm


Replying to @SkyNews and @brexit_sham
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Why not use the Palace of Westminster? the squatters have quit and it might for once be used to save lives not squander them on mad eugenics schemes.

Is "the country" UK, or England?

 

[oyster]

You have to wonder which Brexiteer has won the contract for mass crematoria

Centrica, of course. They'll manage to mis-bill and put them on inappropriate gas tariffs.

Unless they follow the foot and mouth approach. In which case any of the oil companies might be better placed.

 

[Woosh]

Woosh.. Forlorn Hope again

I wish our NHS changes its protocol for reporting the death count.
At present, they count the deaths only after the family allows it, so the figure is systematically wrong.
Yesterday's count is not relevant to those who actually died yesterday of corona virus, but days before and there is no way to know if the total over time is still correct.

 

[flecc]

Personally, I think lockdown works in this first wave of corona, not the next wave when the cold weather returns.

So having hoarded supplies to stay in total lockdown isolation for the first wave, which is sensible, the lull should be used to restock so one can stay in total lockdown isolation for the second wave.

That is perhaps what the government should be advising and planning supplies for, since it would eliminate the majority of shopping visits during both peaks.
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[oyster]

So having hoarded supplies to stay in total lockdown isolation for the first wave, which is sensible, the lull should be used to restock so one can stay in total lockdown isolation for the second wave.

That is perhaps what the government should be advising and planning supplies for, since it would eliminate the majority of shopping visits during both peaks.
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And will, again, be tarred with the "panic buying" brush. However sensible.

Those who have stocked up not only don't need to go out, but also are not competing for those things which are in the shops.

Adding:

Being just two, we have never really had to think much about bog rolls and amount used. Just having some in a cupboard, and a spare one or two in each WC, was enough. Now it seems to behove us to consider annual usage and whether it would be more sensible to permanently keep a good stock. We have sufficient space and we would be in a position to hang around looking for a good deal each year.

 

[sjpt]

So having hoarded supplies to stay in total lockdown isolation for the first wave, which is sensible, the lull should be used to restock so one can stay in total lockdown isolation for the second wave.

That is perhaps what the government should be advising and planning supplies for, since it would eliminate the majority of shopping visits during both peaks.
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I partly agree. But the two waves/peaks are likely around 9 months apart; which might make it impracticable.
I'm not sure if current predictions indicate a subpeak a month or so after the first; some graphs have indicated that .. but as the modellers say there are so many variables/instabilities in the models that details like that are very unreliable anyway.

According to current graphs a good hoard around mid-late September might be worth while?

 

[flecc]

Being just two, we have never really had to think much about bog rolls and amount used. Just having some in a cupboard, and a spare one or two in each WC, was enough. Now it seems to behove us to consider annual usage and whether it would be more sensible to permanently keep a good stock. We have sufficient space and we would be in a position to hang around looking for a good deal each year.

Good idea. Being old enough to be considered one of the wartime generation and well remembering the 12 years of privation of the war, rationing and the post war period, I've always been prepared.

At all times for decades I've always had at least a months worth of supplies, often much more, so I had a head start for this crisis. Plus I foresaw early what could happen with the coronavirus so almost all my additional buying was before the rest of the public started doing it, giving me choice with no shortage.

So I'm good for 3 to 4 months life with no shopping, so long as I'm prepared to go without milk after the first two months, which I am if we haven't reached a lull in the virus spread.
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