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But one can put it on hold for one week - the length of time she could be infectious
she means to isolate herself from risk taking me until June, when the crisis is supposed to be over!
 

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This actually happened in the 1970s in my block of flats, Normally it wouldn't have happened since we were all friends, but one owner in his late 60s had told us that he'd bought a run down cottage in his native Scotland and would be away shortly for some while working on it.

So when he wasn't seen from the end of April we weren't concerned.

It was with the hot weather over a couple of months later that hordes of maggots were suddenly appearing in all the flats, unbeknown to us accessing via service ducting. Then eventually a postman opening his letter box was struck by the smell. We rustled up a long ladder to reach that second floor flat to where a window was sightly open and found what was left of Roy, then calling the police.

The post mortem was unable to reveal any cause of death since all that was left of Roy sadly was skin over bones.

There's a moral there for us oldies, never tell the neighbours you are going away for a while until the moment of departure.
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We had a somewhat similar event just across the road. A middle-aged woman, unmarried with a drink problem , collapsed on her bed , probably vomitted . The bed had an electric blanket ,without the more modern automatic turnoff after 20 hours. .. Did not take anything like a couple of months.
She was a bit belligerent at the best of times , but was assumed to be off visiting.
 
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With only 5 millions in that vast area they are all already in self isolation by our southern standards!
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For example the island of Muck
Population 61
And Main populated place Port Mor (population 15)
Has a population density 0f 4.8 persons per square kilometer
And the Uk national average is 424!
 
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This actually happened in the 1970s in my block of flats, Normally it wouldn't have happened since we were all friends, but one owner in his late 60s had told us that he'd bought a run down cottage in his native Scotland and would be away shortly for some while working on it.

So when he wasn't seen from the end of April we weren't concerned.

It was with the hot weather over a couple of months later that hordes of maggots were suddenly appearing in all the flats, unbeknown to us accessing via service ducting. Then eventually a postman opening his letter box was struck by the smell. We rustled up a long ladder to reach that second floor flat to where a window was sightly open and found what was left of Roy, then calling the police.

The post mortem was unable to reveal any cause of death since all that was left of Roy sadly was skin over bones.

There's a moral there for us oldies, never tell the neighbours you are going away for a while until the moment of departure.
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And leave a large notice specifying a SMELL BY DATE
 
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Or Rum, much bigger and fewer people
Population 22[2]
Population rank 64 [1]
Population density 0.2/km2 (0.5/sq mi)[2][3]
Largest settlement Kinloch
(according to Wikipedia)
 
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I expect most over 70s are laying low anyway
That is my aim, but it presented me with a quandary since I have no nearby relatives to supply me and asking neighbours to do so for four months is far too great an imposition to request it.

So I would have to go out to shop from time to time. But of course with the virus infection spreading that would be an escalating risk for myself and others, particularly since I'm a triple 7, 70 plus two more sevens at 84 years old.

So I decided that the rational thing to do in everyone's interests was to go against all advice and overbuy while the virus had not reached my area, having stock enabling me to self isolate completely for a long period as the virus arrived.

To appear cooperative I spread that buying over three days and four supermarkets, two Sainsburys, one Waitrose and one Co-op, so not appearing to overbuy at any.

The contrasts were interesting, both Sainsburys had their shelves stripped very early in the period with the one in the upper crust area most denuded of stock.

Waitrose did much better, the only type of foodstuff I saw totally out of stock were Italian tinned tomatoes and tomato puree, but that was common to all the supermarkets, as was the absence of any toilet rolls. The British really are a load of shits.

The best performer though was the Co-op which is a very small one in my estate's nearby mini shopping centre. I went there last of all this morning and apart from the Italian tomato products and toilet rolls they not only had everything else of the food basics but with choices too!

For example, all rice had long been stripped from the others, but the little Co-op had three pack sizes in two brands of long grain rice, plus basmati or brown whole grain basmati.
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oldgroaner

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My situation is as follows.
My wife because of Dementia can't accept the following

That there is any reason not to go toMcDonalds (asked when we are going seven times in the last ten minutes)
That there is a problem of any sort ( same frequency)
That the Coronavirus is real ( same frequency)
That the Government can tell us what to do. ( same frequency)

Thankfully she has decided to go for a lie down ...no idea how long that will last, but hopefully till i make tea.
Imagine my delight at the prospect of us both being locked in for four months.

Been looking on the net for a DIY Russian Roulette kit :oops:
On the principle it's "Better to go out with a Bang than a Whimper"
 

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With allies like this, who needs enemies?

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Despite his historical stand:

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My situation is as follows.
My wife because of Dementia can't accept the following

That there is any reason not to go toMcDonalds (asked when we are going seven times in the last ten minutes)
That there is a problem of any sort ( same frequency)
That the Coronavirus is real ( same frequency)
That the Government can tell us what to do. ( same frequency)

Thankfully she has decided to go for a lie down ...no idea how long that will last, but hopefully till i make tea.
Imagine my delight at the prospect of us both being locked in for four months.

Been looking on the net for a DIY Russian Roulette kit :oops:
On the principle it's "Better to go out with a Bang than a Whimper"
Currently the survival statistics for over-80s with covid-19 and one shot of classic Russian Roulette are fairly similar.

(I was trying to explain to someone that covid-19 just a touch more serious than annual flu.)
 

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So I decided that the rational thing to do in everyone's interests was to go against all advice and overbuy while the virus had not reached my area, having stock enabling me to self isolate completely for a long period as the virus arrived.
the risk of infection is low until April.
First sign of panic buying: my local Sainsbury's has been stripped bare yesterday.
 
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Currently the survival statistics for over-80s with covid-19 and one shot of classic Russian Roulette are fairly similar.

(I was trying to explain to someone that covid-19 just a touch more serious than annual flu.)
There are times when a lucky shot looks like a good career move! :cool:
 
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My situation is as follows.
My wife because of Dementia can't accept the following

That there is any reason not to go toMcDonalds (asked when we are going seven times in the last ten minutes)
That there is a problem of any sort ( same frequency)
That the Coronavirus is real ( same frequency)
That the Government can tell us what to do. ( same frequency)

Thankfully she has decided to go for a lie down ...no idea how long that will last, but hopefully till i make tea.
Imagine my delight at the prospect of us both being locked in for four months.

Been looking on the net for a DIY Russian Roulette kit :oops:
On the principle it's "Better to go out with a Bang than a Whimper"
my sympathy, I've realised with the benefit of some bruising encounters its best to either not disagree too much with my wife, or in a very measured way (when she insisted on going to work tomorrow I had to access the altruistic 10% of my personality to say don't go instead of thinking about having the house for myself all day)
 

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My situation is as follows.
My wife because of Dementia can't accept the following

That there is any reason not to go toMcDonalds (asked when we are going seven times in the last ten minutes)
That there is a problem of any sort ( same frequency)
That the Coronavirus is real ( same frequency)
That the Government can tell us what to do. ( same frequency)

Thankfully she has decided to go for a lie down ...no idea how long that will last, but hopefully till i make tea.
Imagine my delight at the prospect of us both being locked in for four months.

Been looking on the net for a DIY Russian Roulette kit :oops:
On the principle it's "Better to go out with a Bang than a Whimper"
You have my sincere sympathies OG. Many's the times in my older years in coming across such circumstances that I've been thankful that I chose to remain resolutely single.
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You have my sincere sympathies OG. Many's the times in my older years in coming across such circumstances that I've been thankful that I chose to remain resolutely single.
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Many thanks, Flecc, it's definitely a case for those of our generation to "press on regardless" incidentally i was in Tesco this morning, buying a single bag full of shopping and noticed that the people pushing the full trolleys were without exception below pensionable age, and the other thing I noted was that there is no shortage of items that require to be cooked, plenty of vegetables, raw meet and fish.
Not a good reflection on the cooking abilities of those who came after us!
 

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First sign of panic buying: my local Sainsbury's has been stripped bare yesterday.
I suspect they are deliberately holding back stock rather than rationing customers.

My very large Sainsburys was also stripped bare Friday afternoon and Saturday but magically had many things back in stock this morning. Only for a while though since they were packed with customers stripping it again.

There's no way they had a mid weekend delivery .
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oldgroaner

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my sympathy, I've realised with the benefit of some bruising encounters its best to either not disagree too much with my wife, or in a very measured way (when she insisted on going to work tomorrow I had to access the altruistic 10% of my personality to say don't go instead of thinking about having the house for myself all day)
Thank you for that kind thought, i have to admit myself prone to similar sentiments on occasion!
 

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I heard on the radio this morning that the government are going to be looking to see if our car manufacturers and companies like JCB and RR could make some ventilators for the NHS? Does that seem like a reasonable idea or is it just some PR rubbish to show the public they are trying to do something?

I don't know if we make ventilators in the country but if we do then they should be the first people the government should be contacting to see if they can rapidly increase production.

If the ventilators are only made abroad then my guess would be that most of the wealthier countries will be trying to get hold of them.

Even if they are made in this country is it likely all the parts come from here. My guess would be that many of the components are imported from perhaps China.

Whoosh you have much more experience in manufacturing than I do, what are your thoughts on this?
 
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You have my sincere sympathies OG. Many's the times in my older years in coming across such circumstances that I've been thankful that I chose to remain resolutely single.
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Yes OG, you have a heavy cross to bear. An active person with dementia is a heartache. Fortunately by the time it had hit my Mother,..and her situation was it only affected perception of location , she was wheelchair confined.
 

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I heard on the radio this morning that the government are going to be looking to see if our car manufacturers and companies like JCB and RR could make some ventilators for the NHS? Does that seem like a reasonable idea or is it just some PR rubbish to show the public they are trying to do something?

I don't know if we make ventilators in the country but if we do then they should be the first people the government should be contacting to see if they can rapidly increase production.

If the ventilators are only made abroad then my guess would be that most of the wealthier countries will be trying to get hold of them.

Even if they are made in this country is it likely all the parts come from here. My guess would be that many of the components are imported from perhaps China.

Whoosh you have much more experience in manufacturing than I do, what are your thoughts on this?
no shortage of medical respirators in China, about $5,000 apiece.
They are not particularly heavy to fly in.
I expect peak demand in the first week in May. We can still get them in in time.
At least Matt Hancock seems a bit more contrite this morning on Marr's show.
 
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