Brexit, for once some facts.
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Johnathan... Just ignore this trolling, he tried it with me, . I suspect his massive intellect is not matched by objective standards
Why not Welsh speakers?
UK to close door to non-English speakers and unskilled workers
Government plans to take ‘full control’ of borders a disaster for economy and jobs, say industry leaders and Labour
It might seem somewhat unlikely, but remember Patagonia. And offspring of Welsh-speakers brought up using Weslh whereever they are around the world.
Welsh is an official language.
UK to close door to non-English speakers and unskilled workers
Government plans to take ‘full control’ of borders a disaster for economy and jobs, say industry leaders and Labour
It might seem somewhat unlikely, but remember Patagonia. And offspring of Welsh-speakers brought up using Weslh whereever they are around the world.
Welsh is an official language.
You like that word don't you. A bit overused now,demonstrating yet amother facet of your infinite inadequacy.
Yes, Labour have by policy and design arranged their own downfall to avoid power during these difficult times. Only a moron would believe that, unforumately we have a few of those posting on here.
The salient point those morons miss is that that very Labour downfall and continued lack of opposition has directly caused the situation and the strength of our current Government.
That is the epitome of your much used word.
Why is what the labour party do relevant? they are not in power, and are you claiming the Conservatives don't have the same problem with anitisemitism and terrorists?
You're struggling, aren't you?
Would you like to see a picture of Thatcher shaking hands with a man who murdered fifty British people?
here you are
Menachem Begin was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization
You really should bone up on history before launching daft attacks on me.
I am in full agreement, he should definitely put me on his Ignore list. No question about it.
That is quite a compliment. Barry has a massive intellect but higher standards of objectivity. Well said. I agree.
You are trying too hard. Relax Danidl, you aint Oscar Wilde. Accept it.
Try and find another word to overuse. If you type Ironic into MS Word, right click on it, and then choose synonyms from the sub menu, it will give you some alternatives for free. In’t computers brilliant!
That’s a zillion years ago. No longer relevant. Labour’s Jew Hate is alive, well and flourishing today.Why is what the labour party do relevant? they are not in power, and are you claiming the Conservatives don't have the same problem with anitisemitism and terrorists?
You're struggling, aren't you?
Would you like to see a picture of Thatcher shaking hands with a man who murdered fifty British people?
here you are
Menachem Begin was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization
You really should bone up on history before launching daft attacks on me.
I sometimes wonder if you have been taken hostage by an escaped NASA Space Monkey and it’s using your Pedelecs account whilst you look on, helplessly bound to a chair with gaffer tape.
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OG, the performance of the second party in our flawed democracy has a massive influence on the actions of the party in power. Its a concept you fail to understand. If the second party runs and hides to avoid power, or does that inadvertently, it leaves the major party total unchallenged power. That is exactly the situation we now find ourselves.Why is what the labour party do relevant? they are not in power, and are you claiming the Conservatives don't have the same problem with anitisemitism and terrorists?
You're struggling, aren't you?
Would you like to see a picture of Thatcher shaking hands with a man who murdered fifty British people?
here you are
Menachem Begin was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization
You really should bone up on history before launching daft attacks on me.
Your claiming Labour are waiting in wings to take the reins when things go wrong is just so wrong on so many levels. Its that very lack of opposition that gives them the reins in the first place. If there were a viable altetnative second party to replace them I, d totally agree but there isnt. As it is we have one major party and 4 very minor squabbling ones. Its nothinh to do with my private feelings over Brexit. We simply do not have a democracy when we dont have a viable opposition. We haven't had one since Corbyn and Momentum hijacked labour. Fact.
Churchill sinking French fleet in WW2 is also totally irrelevant.I,m sure we could post plenty more totally irrelevant facts. Pointless but good fun I suppose.Why is what the labour party do relevant? they are not in power, and are you claiming the Conservatives don't have the same problem with anitisemitism and terrorists?
You're struggling, aren't you?
Would you like to see a picture of Thatcher shaking hands with a man who murdered fifty British people?
here you are
Menachem Begin was an Israeli politician, founder of Likud and the sixth Prime Minister of Israel. Before the creation of the state of Israel, he was the leader of the Zionist militant group Irgun, the Revisionist breakaway from the larger Jewish paramilitary organization
You really should bone up on history before launching daft attacks on me.
So the tories deal with anti-semitism promptly and properly?
Euan McColm: Tories not taking problem of anti-semitism any more seriously than Labour
Daniel Kawczynski's appearance at the conference in Italy was attacked by the president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/euan-mccolm-tories-not-taking-problem-of-anti-semitism-any-more-seriously-than-labour-1-5087763
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You're not quite thick enough to claim freedom from criminal responsibility on the basis of your limited intelligence
Ps just in case you plan to do something as daft as voting for brexit in the hope returning here and blaming labour will get you off the hook
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One of my pensions is a Government Pension which is linked to the CPI. I'm hoping it nudges up a bit more in March, ready for the rise in April.
I think you'll find the April increase due to inflation was already set. It's necessity of course, impossible to both calculate it and pay it at the last minute for everyone, my CPI linked one was set on 8th February, eleven days ago.
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This is new, did you make it up all on your own?
"Yes, Labour have by policy and design arranged their own downfall to avoid power during these difficult times. Only a moron would believe that, unforumately we have a few of those posting on here. "
Read this carefully
My contention was that is would be in Labour's best interest not to be in power so as not to share the blame when Brexit goes wrong.
How is it then that some moron converts that to this?
Labour have by policy and design arranged their own downfall to avoid power during these difficult times.
Yes , I agree it takes a moron to mangle a statement in such a fashion, and it is also true we have a couple of morons with a similar mindset on here
Fun isn't it?
You are right. I've just checked and mine is set the April prior, so the CPI in April 19 will be the rise paid from April 2020 onwards. It makes sense I suppose, with public service inertia, I guess it takes 12 months to react! Yours appears to react more quickly.
I think you read things and interpret them wrongly. Yes, I voted Brexit and much as I said I, d vote differently if given another chance, it was for social reasons rather than intrinsically not believing in leaving, but I, m not starting all that again. I believe we should leave. EU is and should remain a trading block and not an all controlling political experiment, which is exactly what it is.
I dont want Labour to change anything about Brexit, I wanted them to spend billions on infrastructure, social care and NHS. End of. (as they said they would in manifesto)
Their stance on Brexit was a joke, appalling sitting on fence and its partly why they lost. They didnt have a stance on it one way or other,so how they were supposed to rescue anyone over it is pure fantasy in yours and OG's bizarre minds. I didnt want ref 2 as didnt majority of country.
I, m obviously not of limited intelligence. Thanks. I wish I could reciprocate compliment.
I wanted and want Labour to be a viable alternative. They are not. Its not complicated Agnew. I, ve tried to explain in simple terms why country needs an electable second party. Its upto to you to develop the knowledge about our democracy to understand why. Good luck, there might be a Ladybird book on subject.
On why Labour lost, do you really believe our country would vote into no 10 an organisation controlled by McCluskey and led by Corbyn / Abbott. It was never going to happen and anyone with slightest inclination about feeling of electorate has known so for past 5 years. Just the nutters truly believed Corbyn /Abbott/McCluskey were capable of running country. Rest of us knew all 3 are incompetent. (even though I voted for them hoping that if they did win our system would limit the damage)
You, d really chose Corbyn/Abbot McCluskey over present mob? I actually doubt you really would. You couldn't really be that stupid. So we chose the second worse option. Tories.
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labour want to be in power but they can't achieve it. They can't achieve power because not enough people like their policies. They are too insulated in their metropolitan elite bubble to realise this, that is why they will elect RLB as their new leader. The cycle of humiliating defeat and ineffective opposition will then star over again.
The Tory party can't believe their luck.