Brexit, for once some facts.
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frankly that's a bit rich. By voting brexit you have destroyed much of the UK economy and our as much as your livelihood. That's aside from what you've done to the Maastricht treaty,world stability and democracy. A little contrition would be a good starting point
No we want to avoid fools intent on damaging the UK from imagining they are acting as some sort of patriotic movement.
You're not.
You are in fact a menace.
Get over it.
The UK is doing fine inside the EU and Brexit voters want to risk all that because they fail to understand the value of membership, and never check, or bother to understand when they are being lied to and manipulated.
"Fools rush out has replaced Fools rush in"
Perhaps that could be a theme tune for Brexit?
"Fools rush out where wise men never go" etc., etc
Not taking sides on this one, simply reporting a system
"When all counting is done, it is likely that Ms Clinton will have bagged as many as 2 million more votes than Mr Trump nationwide. That would be a gap of about 1.5 per cent. She is on course to record a bigger margin of victory in the popular vote than Al Gore did in 2000 when he ultimately lost the presidency to former President George W Bush."
It's Democracy Jim, so long as you win!
"When all counting is done, it is likely that Ms Clinton will have bagged as many as 2 million more votes than Mr Trump nationwide. That would be a gap of about 1.5 per cent. She is on course to record a bigger margin of victory in the popular vote than Al Gore did in 2000 when he ultimately lost the presidency to former President George W Bush."
It's Democracy Jim, so long as you win!
nobody hijacks this thread. There are fewer brexiters than remainers, that's all. Do you still have to ask yourself why our government still has no plan? the truth is brexiters won the vote and not the argument.
Tom! I nearly missed this one.
You are correct regarding my use of the apostrophe and were right to bring the misuse to my attention. I am but a comprehensive school educated man. However, I have always enjoyed writing and I take delight from using the rich selection of word's
available to us within the English language. But I am prone to mistake's .Sadly and with a slight pang of envy, I must concede that I am unlikely to ascend to the literary heights attained by yourself. I am humbled by your online presence.
I understand that you were angry and humiliated after being exposed as a rank hypocrite. It's good to be angry and the emotion represents the commencement of the healing process. Lashing out is therapeutic too and it will help you to drive the hypocrisy from your soul. In your darkest hours old tom, cherish the notion that you will recover. No one has ever died of hypocrisy. I am completely confident that some time in the future you will be cured and then you will no longer present a menace to civilised society.
I forgive you my friend. Best wishes.
Classic tillson, classic[emoji1]Tom! I nearly missed this one.
You are correct regarding my use of the apostrophe and were right to bring the misuse to my attention. I am but a comprehensive school educated man. However, I have always enjoyed writing and I take delight from using the rich selection of word's
Sadly and with a slight pang of envy, I must concede that I am unlikely to ascend to the literary heights attained by yourself. I am humbled by your online presence.
I understand that you were angry and humiliated after being exposed as a rank hypocrite. It's good to be angry and the emotion represents the commencement of the healing process. Lashing out is therapeutic too and it will help you to drive the hypocrisy from your soul. In your darkest hours old tom, cherish the notion that you will recover. No one has ever died of hypocrisy. I am completely confident that some time in the future you will be cured and then you will no longer present a menace to civilised society.
I forgive you my friend. Best wishes.
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Thank you oldgroaner. Have a peaceful evening.
Ps. Inflation is lower than predicted, in fact its
fallen slightly. Sleep well my friend.
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This is a straight lift from the meeting between two of the three biggest numpties on the planet. Brexidiots will get all moist at some of the love scenes:
The other numpty seems far too busy supporting 'Brexit' on this Pedelecs thread to keep up with the latest material about his fantasy führers.
Tom
The other numpty seems far too busy supporting 'Brexit' on this Pedelecs thread to keep up with the latest material about his fantasy führers.
Tom
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Exocise that hypocrisy from your body old tom. You shall be cleansed.Let the anger and the frustration and the tears flow.
More likely Japanese...remember McLaren's engine partner is Honda.
KudosDave
You too!Thank you oldgroaner. Have a peaceful evening.
Ps. Inflation is lower than predicted, in fact its
Telegraph this morning
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Angela Merkel signals key concession on Brexit: German chancellor hints that freedom of movement is negotiable.
And from the Express
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Merkel in Brexit U-TURN as she hints Britain WILL be able to opt out of free movement
ANGELA Merkel has hinted she is willing to climb down on her previous threats and allow Britain to opt out of the free movement of people when Theresa May finally triggers Article 50.
And the Daily Mail
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Boost for Brexit deal on ending free movement as Angela Merkel hints at new migration limit after Boris savages EU's open borders
If true then that marks the death of Brexit as far as most of the Electorate who voted for it are concerned.
Why suffer for nothing?
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Angela Merkel signals key concession on Brexit: German chancellor hints that freedom of movement is negotiable.
And from the Express
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Merkel in Brexit U-TURN as she hints Britain WILL be able to opt out of free movement
ANGELA Merkel has hinted she is willing to climb down on her previous threats and allow Britain to opt out of the free movement of people when Theresa May finally triggers Article 50.
And the Daily Mail
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Boost for Brexit deal on ending free movement as Angela Merkel hints at new migration limit after Boris savages EU's open borders
If true then that marks the death of Brexit as far as most of the Electorate who voted for it are concerned.
Why suffer for nothing?
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If true, this could be the first signs of a compromise which will give both sides of the BREXIT argument a way forward. Very early days, but a compromise is a sensible option.
Mrs Merkel was talking about benefits, not the freedom of movement itself, which is the right for EU citizens to come here and look for work. The UK is particularly more generous with welfare and in-work benefits than any other EU country. In Germany, you have to work for 5 years before you can claim. The EU is going to extend the period that the country of origin pays JSA while their EU citizens look for work here from 3 to 6 months. That period can be extended further, reducing the scope for benefit tourism.
But the die hard brexit fans in the Mail and Express regard this as a sellout, it will be a hard sell to reach them. The reader's comments are hostile.
tillson my friend here's one to make you smile, do you recall recommending the Daily Star newspaper as carrying reliable and accurate news?
Here's their latest revelation.
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Trump faces calls to take DNA test following sensational claims he was born in Pakistan
DONALD Trump last night faced calls to take a DNA test following sensational reports that he was born a Muslim in Pakistan."
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A Pakistani news channel bizarrely claimed to have seen evidence that the US president-elect was born Dawood Ibrahim Khan in lawless North Waziristan in 1946.
If true, it could rule Trump ineligible to be president as the US Constitution states the nation’s leader has to be a “natural born citizen” – although interpretations of the phrase vary.
Broadcaster Neo News claimed young Dawood was educated in a madrassa, or religious seminary, before he was orphaned when his parents died in a road accident in 1954."
Ah well you have to laugh.......or do you?
Care to make one of your insightful takes on this?
Here's their latest revelation.
"
Trump faces calls to take DNA test following sensational claims he was born in Pakistan
DONALD Trump last night faced calls to take a DNA test following sensational reports that he was born a Muslim in Pakistan."
"
A Pakistani news channel bizarrely claimed to have seen evidence that the US president-elect was born Dawood Ibrahim Khan in lawless North Waziristan in 1946.
If true, it could rule Trump ineligible to be president as the US Constitution states the nation’s leader has to be a “natural born citizen” – although interpretations of the phrase vary.
Broadcaster Neo News claimed young Dawood was educated in a madrassa, or religious seminary, before he was orphaned when his parents died in a road accident in 1954."
Ah well you have to laugh.......or do you?
Care to make one of your insightful takes on this?
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In principle I certainly have nothing against such a compromise, but suggest that if that is agreed, what reason remains to leave the EU?
it's difficult to find a way forward without leaving.
We need to prove to ourselves that we don't do very well on our own outside the EU. Most of us suspect that we won't but we still need some sort of proof. The latter could well be membership of NAFTA. If we could somehow negotiate a transitional period up to 2025, we would then either see that NAFTA is a real goer or still a long way off. If NAFTA membership with Mr Trump as chairman is proven much worse than membership of the EU, then going back would have the support of a sufficient majority.
We need to prove to ourselves that we don't do very well on our own outside the EU. Most of us suspect that we won't but we still need some sort of proof. The latter could well be membership of NAFTA. If we could somehow negotiate a transitional period up to 2025, we would then either see that NAFTA is a real goer or still a long way off. If NAFTA membership with Mr Trump as chairman is proven much worse than membership of the EU, then going back would have the support of a sufficient majority.
However, assuming there is leeway over immigration and the Agreement Cameron reached about no further integration into a Federal State, what else is left to cause us to want to leave?
The whole Brexit cause evaporates.
And of course by 2025 why would Europe want us back?they will have managed without us.