Many of those assets were sold off cheaply to friends, being little more than fenced stolen goods remember?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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If brexit happens it is far better for Boris to be in charge and be held responsible
And this is your area of expertise?. What happens when they pass into Irish and the North Atlantic area.. it is the Shanwick.. Shannon and Prestwick node. The Irish component of this service is undertaken by the Irish State . My point was that there are plenty of state and publicly owned services providing excellent services .
Now the NATS is one of those, ..while it theoretically " majority privately owned" the rules under which it operates are such that it is effectively state controlled.
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It was Tillson's area of expertise, he would have known about this, it's a shame he's no longer contributing to the thread.
But as another Tory, that wouldn't be any more desirable than the contemptible Johnson winning it.
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Sort of. From 1919 it was a part of the Royal Air Force. In 1936 it split, with services to the Royal Navy being provided by their own service
From 1990 it became an executive agency* of the Ministry of Defence, but more recently it's sponsor became the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy.
* Quango (Quasi Autonomous Non Governmental Organisation).
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How can you define who is and who isn't Labour or Tory?
For me, both JC and Tony Blair are Labour, both Johnson and John Major are tories.
I would rather have Blair for PM, not JC. Blair knows what works. JC is a dreamer at best.
Blair did a lot more for the many than Thatcher and Major, JC has not and probably would do more harm than good to the many if he becomes PM.
They're flogging a dead fish in the Express
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‘Free lunch for EU is over!’ UK to take back 60% of British fish by kicking out EU boats
BRITAIN’S fishing industry will take back sovereignty of its waters after the UK leaves the EU, preventing the bloc from taking 60% of our fish.
Showing a clear and total lack of understanding of the situation in the Fishing industry, where all fishing quotas were sold off by the few here who won them years ago and our inshore fishing fleet decimated.
But I suppose it kids the public and sells newspapers.
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‘Free lunch for EU is over!’ UK to take back 60% of British fish by kicking out EU boats
BRITAIN’S fishing industry will take back sovereignty of its waters after the UK leaves the EU, preventing the bloc from taking 60% of our fish.
Showing a clear and total lack of understanding of the situation in the Fishing industry, where all fishing quotas were sold off by the few here who won them years ago and our inshore fishing fleet decimated.
But I suppose it kids the public and sells newspapers.
Flight control within the Shanwick OCA is the responsibility of the United Kingdom (NATS). The United Kingdom’s NATS does delicate some of the voice coms to the Irish state’s authority, but you could hardly call the Shanwick OCA undertaken by the Irish state. It’s certainly not, it’s NATS, a majority private entity.
I’m not certain why voice coms has been delegated to Ireland by the U.K, but certainly the flight control is carried out by NATS with the Irish acting as the messenger under the UK’s NATS supervision.
Are you trying to get things wrong on purpose? It seems like it’s a deliberate act.
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Will brexit stop freedom of movement of fish? Only those with British blue passports will be allowed into UK waters. Oh no - the other way around, we won't allow any of our British blue passport holding fish to go into EU waters and get caught there - but we'll allow EU passport holding fish to come into our waters...
With business planning and foresight such as this, any U.K. government should bring high-tech industries such as broadband provisions under their control. Perhaps they could give the service away, free of charge?
As I said before, when the finger points at the moon, the idiot looks at the finger. You are attempting to subvert a description of a well run international organization ,which has state control, into a mealy mouthed competition. The point is and was that ATC is state controlled enterprise. Whether one of the organisations has 51% nominal shareholding by non state actors is irrelevant. It is a SERVICE not a profit centre.
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You really are far out of touch with reality on this. Corbyn is in the mould of Clement Attlee and his team, all of them true Socialist dreamers in the mould of Keir Hardy who founded the Labour party. Attlee and co. in six years post WW2 realised some of their dreams, transforming the lives of the masses.
Wealthy barrister Blair just continued with largely Tory policies of expediency, on the way creating one of the most evil and damaging of all long term policies, PFI. He never had a single Socialist idea, just depended on chancellor Gordon Brown to simulate continuance of Socialism with ever increasing national debt having no investment value.
That is just pure bigotry and prejudice. You can have absolutely no idea what harm or good Corbyn would do since there isn't a scrap of hard evidence for either. It's conceivable that he would be another Attlee, although the large number of Blairite MPs he still has and who are ever ready to sabotage him do not begin to compare with Attlee's. Visionary geniuses like Aneurin Bevan.
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This is my last word on the matter because you are such a hopelessly inadequate idiot who doesn’t have the manners, good grace or strength of character to admit that you are wrong.
NATS does the controlling. NATS is a U.K. organisation. NATS is a private sector majority owned outfit. Ireland has been given the task of voice coms by NATS. End of.
Are you such a clown that you believe that the private element of NATS is not in it for profit? Let me answer that for you, yes you are a massive, stupid idiotic clown that never gets anything correct.
Now try and get something right you pathetic little fool.
In the Sunday Times
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/revealed-the-russia-report-kz6c9mwxf#
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Russian interference may have had an impact on the Brexit referendum, but the effect was “unquantifiable”, according to a parliamentary report suppressed by No 10.
The report by the cross-party intelligence and security committee (ISC ) into illicit Russian activities in Britain could not say if it had affected the result of the 2016 vote."
If that is all it said, why suppress the report?
That has done the Conservatives more harm than good.
Which means there is a definite taint of rodent about this report.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/revealed-the-russia-report-kz6c9mwxf#
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Russian interference may have had an impact on the Brexit referendum, but the effect was “unquantifiable”, according to a parliamentary report suppressed by No 10.
The report by the cross-party intelligence and security committee (ISC ) into illicit Russian activities in Britain could not say if it had affected the result of the 2016 vote."
If that is all it said, why suppress the report?
That has done the Conservatives more harm than good.
Which means there is a definite taint of rodent about this report.
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You basically entrust the man with your tax money.
JC sells the idea that publicly owned utilities and services work better than free market economy.
He will do so not by raising taxes because he knows voters would not buy it but by borrowing which is basically taking out a mortgage on future taxpayers.
I happen not to believe this approach, so am I now a bigot?
Do you realise how actionable that tirade is?.
Now it is obvious that you have gone back to the Wikis on the subject. So read them fully.
I am more likely to believe almost anything and everything JC says over anything BJ has said, or will say.
No, I do not find him particularly appealing and question much of what he says. Much of the best political words I have heard in recent times have come from sources which hitherto might have been unexpected. Like PC.