Brexit, for once some facts.
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And, your point?
Agreed, 50 is an excellent poster. As opposed to yourself, who isnt.
It was a mistake OG. You missed an open goal and struck corner flag.
When the ball hits your head and your stood in row Z.
Its Zamora.
Well OG actually, but that doesnt rhyme.
You've just described everyone who arrived after the Romans!
And they were a bit of a mixed blessing..
What did they ever do for us?
With respect it's not a shambles, it's by design for two reasons:
Firstly it cannot be proportional to population, if it were Croatia would only be entitled to 0.8 of a MEP. The only way that could work in a poor fashion is if they were allowed one MEP but that MEP was banned from 20% of the sitting time.
Secondly the EU is all about trying to equalise the member countries status, hence the redistribution of money. Accordingly the smaller and weaker countries are given proportionally greater representation in the chamber than the largest and most wealthy.
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Again you are shifting the argument. Your last point was that because Croatia did not come out in large numbers, they should be somewhat penalised. You will be delighted to know that when the UK finally leaves, the EU will be redistributing their seats to help equilise the distribution, and leave a few seats vacant for future expansion. But it will not be your problem.
There is always a problem in getting constituencies and representation balanced. Can you remember the problem of Rotten Burgh s in British History. ?. The problem is nowhere as acute as the US Electoral College
Get your point Flecc but your maths is flawed. 4.28 million in a total of 513 million represents 0.0083( 0.83%)
Since there are 751 MEPs there should be 6.2 (0.83% of 751)Croatian MEPs. Agreed it must be an integar.. So 6 full time. 7 one week in 5?.
Agreed this would be for equal numeric representation. Who decided otherwise and what algorithm is used to arrive at figures supplied by Woosh.??
Seems at moment Spanish are seriously under represented but Cypriots well over??
No my point was nothing of the kind, my point was a poor turn out in smaller countries exaggerates what is already a big discrepancy in numeric representation accross the EU. Its probably too mathematical for you to understand Danidl.
I've seen a Syrian dentist at work oddly enough in sunny Frinton - not me thankfully. He did the swiftest tooth extraction I've ever seen, just mere seconds after the pain killing injection. This was 5 years ago...
I’ve not read all the posts relating to this, but I would have thought a formula to allocate MEPs by population would be sensible.
For example:
If the population of the EU is 760 million and there are 760 MEP places, 1 MEP per 1 million population would make sense. Maybe that’s how it works?
Also, I think it would be wise to allocate additional MEPs based on the amount of money contributed by a country. Maybe that happens too?
No. That was actually your second point, when your first one failed to have traction.
There is a disparity in representative numbers which Woosh,not yourself pointed out. .Come on now, credit where it is due.
As my truncated edit tried to point out, the EU is very keen to get representative opinions, and this does interfere with direct proportionality. Taking an example of a small state with one representative, then all other shades of opinion from that state are suppressed. .. examples coming to mind are what happens in a country with a 52:48 divide, or the current situation in Westminster where only the DUP voice is heard from NI. .. now that is a self inflicted situation by SF. But the point is that below a certain number, you need to fudge the ratio in order to get greater diversity.
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Your first point does make sense...but see my counter argument above. The second point is a licence for tyranny. Look to the Local Government provisions in NI ,which led to the outbreak in 1969. Wards, and voting was arranged by the local councils. The only people who could vote for councils were "men of property"
You, d have thought that the case but it obviously isnt.
The know it alls have failed to explain either the reasoning or the methodology of the disparity. Spanish MEP's representing 800k plus and Cypriot ones sub 200k does not seem terribly democratic. But hey, there you go. What has democracy got to do with it.
I wont mention Croatia, it seems to upset Danidl.
large countries have an influence factor of 1 (or near 1): Germany, UK, Italy, France) . You then compare their GDP and population with ours. It's like golf with handicap.
Luxembourg has a handicap of 11, Cyprus 6.5.
It's about as fair as golf I suppose.
This sounds dangerous, especially if the power to veto disappears.
This is the sort of information which needs presenting to the public.
Hey we invented that when Zamora played for us.
Stop appropriating.
You are worse than the Washington redskins