Brexit, for once some facts.

Woosh

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D'oh... should have waited....... ;)
I know the feeling. However, push bikes would be cheaper, e-bikes will pay the same duty as e-bike parts now (about 5%), only assembly cost will be cheaper.
Still, there is an extension to Feb 2020, a second referendum before that and brexit may be cancelled! it'll be only but a dream!
 

50Hertz

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Jan 2, 2019
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What lies did I fall for?
We don’t know the answer because you are unable to define what it is you want from Brexit.

The more you post, the more I believe that you didn’t fall for any lies because you are only capable of acting on inexplicable urge, lacking the mental capacity to consider information presented to you. In your case, I fear that you don’t know why you voted to leave or what you expected the outcome to be. It was simply some kind of primitive & animalistic impulse. Nothing more.
 
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Fingers

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We don’t know the answer because you are unable to define what it is you want from Brexit.

The more you post, the more I believe that you didn’t fall for any lies because you are only capable of acting on inexplicable urge, lacking the mental capacity to consider information presented to you. In your case, I fear that you don’t know why you voted to leave or what you expected the outcome to be. It was simply some sort of inbuilt ancient, animalistic, inexplicable impulse. Nothing more.

You are probably right.

Although as I’ve posted many times recently I wanted house prices to fall to a level that I could afford.

One nil to fingers already!

Mortgage update. It’s official I have officially been issued a mortgage by NatWest. Email arrived yesterday. Hopefully move in by Christmas.

That’s just one part of my master plan of voting leave. What was yours again?

Oh yeah. A bus and some waffle by a buffoon. Lol.
 

50Hertz

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You are probably right.

Although as I’ve posted many times recently I wanted house prices to fall to a level that I could afford.

One nil to fingers already!

Mortgage update. It’s official I have officially been issued a mortgage by NatWest. Email arrived yesterday. Hopefully move in by Christmas.

That’s just one part of my master plan of voting leave. What was yours again?

Oh yeah. A bus and some waffle by a buffoon. Lol.
I’m afraid I don’t believe you. I think you’ve just made that up. The current situation makes it less likely that an institution would lend you money, not more likely.

This is what Boris Johnson has reduced you to. Quit and salvage some dignity.
 
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Fingers

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I’m afraid I don’t believe you. I think you’ve just made that up. The current situation makes it less likely that an institution would lend you money, not more likely.

This is what Boris Johnson has reduced you to. Quit and salvage some dignity.

I know right!

But here we are.
 

oldgroaner

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You are probably right.

Although as I’ve posted many times recently I wanted house prices to fall to a level that I could afford.

One nil to fingers already!

Mortgage update. It’s official I have officially been issued a mortgage by NatWest. Email arrived yesterday. Hopefully move in by Christmas.

That’s just one part of my master plan of voting leave. What was yours again?

Oh yeah. A bus and some waffle by a buffoon. Lol.
Fingers you are lying again three years ago when you voted house prices going down was totally unlikely, in the same way that your "master plan" is.
You are profiting on other peoples loss
Admit it, and since you are obviously proud of doing so, was your master plan to rely on Brexit to profit at someone else's expense?
 

oyster

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Nov 7, 2017
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Is it possible to get rid of a PM by his contravention of HoC code of conduct?

I was going to quote one or two relevant bits, but as I read on, I found few that he couldn't be accused of (even if not all such allegations would stand proper investigation). Anyway, I post the first real bit and leave you to consider whether he has upheld them fully.

Can misadvising the Queen possibly be bearing true allegiance?

III.Duties of Members

4. By virtue of the oath, or affirmation, of allegiance taken by all Members when they are elected to the House, Members have a duty to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen, her heirs and successors, according to law.

5. Members have a duty to uphold the law, including the general law against discrimination.

6. Members have a general duty to act in the interests of the nation as a whole; and a special duty to their constituents.

7. Members should act on all occasions in accordance with the public trust placed in them. They should always behave with probity and integrity, including in their use of public resources.
 

oldgroaner

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Is it possible to get rid of a PM by his contravention of HoC code of conduct?

I was going to quote one or two relevant bits, but as I read on, I found few that he couldn't be accused of (even if not all such allegations would stand proper investigation). Anyway, I post the first real bit and leave you to consider whether he has upheld them fully.

Can misadvising the Queen possibly be bearing true allegiance?

III.Duties of Members

4. By virtue of the oath, or affirmation, of allegiance taken by all Members when they are elected to the House, Members have a duty to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen, her heirs and successors, according to law.

5. Members have a duty to uphold the law, including the general law against discrimination.

6. Members have a general duty to act in the interests of the nation as a whole; and a special duty to their constituents.

7. Members should act on all occasions in accordance with the public trust placed in them. They should always behave with probity and integrity, including in their use of public resources.
He has certainly been disloyal, and the petrified pencil with him
 
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Fingers

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Fingers you are lying again three years ago when you voted house prices going down was totally unlikely, in the same way that your "master plan" is.
You are profiting on other peoples loss
Admit it, and since you are obviously proud of doing so, was your master plan to rely on Brexit to profit at someone else's expense?
Incorrect as usual. Although this time it's a full house.

Busy day at the supermarket?
 

Woosh

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Eh! using what mechanism? If the Government is talking about Tax free zones and no border posts THERE IS no duty.
what they talk about was some free ports that would be setup in deprived areas. When goods cross the boundary into the UK market, they will pay taxes like if they came from other countries, the rule of origin will be determined then with HMRC.
What happens in NI in case of no deal is to leave NI to the smugglers.
 

flecc

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Is it possible to get rid of a PM by his contravention of HoC code of conduct?

I was going to quote one or two relevant bits, but as I read on, I found few that he couldn't be accused of (even if not all such allegations would stand proper investigation). Anyway, I post the first real bit and leave you to consider whether he has upheld them fully.

Can misadvising the Queen possibly be bearing true allegiance?

III.Duties of Members

4. By virtue of the oath, or affirmation, of allegiance taken by all Members when they are elected to the House, Members have a duty to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen, her heirs and successors, according to law.

5. Members have a duty to uphold the law, including the general law against discrimination.

6. Members have a general duty to act in the interests of the nation as a whole; and a special duty to their constituents.

7. Members should act on all occasions in accordance with the public trust placed in them. They should always behave with probity and integrity, including in their use of public resources.
If you consider the following:

That the advice of the Attorney General was that proroguing was legal, that the English High Court agreed and the Queen's advisors didn't disagree.

That the PM's action was therefore not known to be illegal at the time.

That the public voted by a majority to Leave the EU and the PM is trying to do that.

That the public trusted the government to carry out their will.

There's no adequate grounds for action against the PM.

More's the pity.
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