Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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he appears to have nothing to offer but to cause chaos in the hope that somehow a new order will emerge.
Margaret Thatcher thought destroying Britain's traditional firms would automatically result in modern manufacturing ones taking their place. She was spectacularly wrong of course, the replacing businesses being ephemeral ones in the unnecessary services sector, such firms as Party Ingredients and Party Balloons, vanishing with the next recession.

History is full of cases where disruption of a political system resulted in ultimate collapse, not the emergence of a better society.
The French revolution and a few others resulted in better societies, but they were more about replacing a ruling system than a political system.
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Margaret Thatcher thought destroying Britain's traditional firms would automatically result in modern manufacturing ones taking their place. She was spectacularly wrong of course, the replacing businesses being ephemeral ones in the unnecessary services sector, such firms as Party Ingredients and Party Balloons, vanishing with the next recession.



The French revolution and a few others resulted in better societies, but they were more about replacing a ruling system than a political system.
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Ignoring hickups like Robespierre and Napoleon? :cool:
 

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Good job Tories have got Corbyn. They, d be sunk without him.
Most (not all)of his proposals are not unreasonable. I know the Coal Mines inspectorate could turn up at anytime. Giving companies warning that health and safety are coming is like ringing your wife's lover to tell him what time you'll be home.
 

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I thought this was very interesting.

Seems global business isn’t bothered about Brexit at all.
Of course they responded to Brexit.. the LSE was 16% cheaper to buy!. This is the other side of the equation. When your currency drops, the vultures circle. Even more interesting is that the timing is now. They are assuming a rally in the value of Sterling..otherwise why buy now?. That indicates that they believe a soft or no Brexit.
 
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In 1819 UK average life expectancy was 40.5 years.

In 2019 it's doubled to 80.96 years.

But after continuously increasing through those two centuries, it's now stalled since 2015, some even decreasing.

As if Brexit wasn't bad enough already, it's now killing people.
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In 1819 UK average life expectancy was 40.5 years.

In 2019 it's doubled to 80.96 years.

But after continuously increasing through those two centuries, it's now stalled since 2015, some even decreasing.

As if Brexit wasn't bad enough already, it's now killing people.
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I've mentioned this before.. Life expectancy is misleading because of infant mortality bringing the average down. If you lived to be an adult you had a good chance of living to a good age,
 
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I've mentioned this before.. Life expectancy is misleading because of infant mortality bringing the average down. If you lived to be an adult you had a good chance of living to a good age,
Yes.to an extent,and the frequent wars culled out a lot of younger men, and the coal mining and coal burning a few others , TB was virtually a death sentence,but nowhere as effective a killer as cholera or bad sewage. Only the wealthiest could expect to live beyond 60 ,and increasingly miserable.
 
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