Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

One man protest
Luke Pollard MP

@LukePollard
·
5h

Quietly and peacefully I have gone back to sit in my usual spot in the House of Commons. No shouting or scuffles - just a quiet statement about our democracy. Boris Johnson’s prorogation of Parliament is unlawful. MPs should be here debating the national crisis. #recallparliament

 

[oyster]

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Aha! Just realised why it is called Yellowhammer. Its song describes what we will be eating come no-deal, crashout brexit: "little bit of bread and no cheese".

They have until 23:00 to publish. Scotland Yard on standby to start arresting at 23:01...

 

[Fingers]

Just dropped the yellow hammer

 

[oldgroaner]

Boris is the Gift that keeps on giving, this evening discussing Brexit with the Northern Ireland Business leaders he rambled on about making a Titanic effort for a deal and was treated to an off the cuff reaction
"When the Titanic left Belfast it was fine
but it had an English Captain.......

 

[Zlatan]

Boris is the Gift that keeps on giving, this evening discussing Brexit with the Northern Ireland Business leaders he rambled on about making a Titanic effort for a deal and was treated to an off the cuff reaction
"When the Titanic left Belfast it was fine
but it had an English Captain.......

I suppose bringing racial slurs into it is supposed to help is it?

 

[oldgroaner]

Just dropped the yellow hammer

In what way? do tell all

 

[Fingers]

In what way? do tell all

Here you are dummy

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

 

[Zlatan]

And by the way the Captain of Titanic went down with his ship.

 

[oldgroaner]

I suppose bringing racial slurs into it is supposed to help is it?

Trying to pretend there is a racial slur is one of your favourite red herrings isn't it?
Bit of a chip on the old shoulders there, showing once again.

let me give you a bit more detail, the Titanic sailed with a fire in one of the coal bunkers that just happened to be the site of a massive failure on impact and this was known to Bruce Ismay and the Captain days before the ship sailed but hidden from the public.

Despite the fact that the Titanic was entering an ice field the Captain pressed on at maximum speed, some say for prestige, others because the fire had become even more dangerous, and consuming coal reserves at a rate that meant that there was a risk of running out of fuel before reaching New York.

For someone to set sail with a fire burning down below then head hell for leather into an ice field he had known was there puts criticism of this Captain way beyond being a racial slur.

It's time you dropped this partisan Brexit goggles attitude by trotting out the old favourite of yours and implying racism into this, the Northern Ireland people don't need your permission to make an undeniable point, or are you denying the Captain was English?

 

[oldgroaner]

Here you are dummy

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

Why the insult? it was a request for information
Next time I shall ask an adult

 

[oldgroaner]

And by the way the Captain of Titanic went down with his ship.

Perhaps a good guide for Boris to emulate.

 

[Fingers]

Why the insult? it was a request for information
Next time I shall ask an adult

You were being sarcastic so I treat you as such

 

[Danidl]

Just dropped the yellow hammer

Thanks for the heads up!. I have scan read it .. except the single redacted para.
This is project reality...

 

[oldgroaner]

Are we expected to believe this document is all there is to Yellowhammer?
when do we get the real documents? this is utter rubbish

Surely it cannot be even a minute fraction of the real report
The Scottish Parliament have done a much better job

https://sp-bpr-en-prod-cdnep.azureedge.net/published/2019/9/2/Preparing-for-a-no-deal-Brexit/SB 19-54.pdf

As presented the six pages of Yellowhammer are clearly just another sham knocked together to hoodwink the nation.
It's just a series of speculations without details or recommendations for action

By comparison the Scottish parliament report runs to 51 pages!

This is deplorable, either a complete sham or an admission of crass incompetence on the part of the Government department responsible for it

Heads should roll

 

[oldgroaner]

You were being sarcastic so I treat you as such

No fingers you were just making a fool of yourself by being rude

 

[oldgroaner]

Thanks for the heads up!. I have scan read it .. except the single redacted para.
This is project reality...

In all it's Brevity!
Never in the field of Human progress has an impending disaster been so carefully understated using so little detail and so few solutions, and despite that, failed to cover up the catastrophic scale of the problem.
Now give us the REAL and DETAILED report that they must have prepared.

Surely.........................Oh!......................

 

[oyster]

Are we expected to believe this document is all there is to Yellowhammer?
when do we get the real documents? this is utter rubbish

Surely it cannot be even a minute fraction of the real report
The Scottish Parliament have done a much better job

https://sp-bpr-en-prod-cdnep.azureedge.net/published/2019/9/2/Preparing-for-a-no-deal-Brexit/SB 19-54.pdf

As presented the six pages of Yellowhammer are clearly just another sham knocked together to hoodwink the nation.
It's just a series of speculations without details or recommendations for action

By comparison the Scottish parliament report runs to 51 pages!

This is deplorable, either a complete sham or an admission of crass incompetence on the part of the Government department responsible for it

Heads should roll

Note that they tooks six pages and scanned them on a Canon imageRUNNER ADVANCE C256/C356 II Series MFP.

The obvious reason to do that (and cause all the pages to be skewed) is to guarantee there is no history or metadata present - that might be discovered and embarrass. (And make it easy to redact with a black felt tip.)

 

[oldgroaner]

Lets see now this so called report in't on headed paper and carries no official documentation references, it looks like a junior clerk knocked it out on a laptop extracting bits at random from the actual report, it in't even aligned properly on the pages , or the text properly formatted and justified.
It looks like something coming out of Dominic Cummings rather than a Government dept.

Time to arrest the Government for not revealing the real report as ordered.
Someone is taking the mickey of the law

 

[oldgroaner]

Note that they tooks six pages and scanned them on a Canon imageRUNNER ADVANCE C256/C356 II Series MFP.

The obvious reason to do that (and cause all the pages to be skewed) is to guarantee there is no history or metadata present - that might be discovered and embarrass. (And make it easy to redact with a black felt tip.)

I can agree with most of that but how do you get perfect rectangular dense redactions with a Black felt tip??

 

[oyster]

justified.

If only we were having a discussion about whether the type is justified (I prefer not in almost all circumstances) rather than whether the contents is justified.