Brexit, for once some facts.
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What is the Biggest lie of all?
That remainers are trying to cancel Brexit and annul the referendum
Quite simply what is going on is a battle about leaving not remaining
Does anyone actually know how many MP's are campaigning to cancel Brexit?
A handful at most
Someone should point out that this headline is simply misleading the public to gain support
From the Express
Remain revolt will trigger election: Boris and Farage ARE ready for Brexit fight at polls
BORIS JOHNSON will call an election within days if Remainers succeed in blocking a no-deal Brexit.
There is NO remain revolt it's a fiction. yet another lie
The revolt is against no deal and a bad deal.
And that's the pity of it all.
What is going on is irrelevant and dishonest to pretend that the Remain faction is in fact a threat.
There are too few of them to represent what is now the major part of the voting public.
What we have is two bunches of thieves squabbling over the loot, not trying to give it back!
That remainers are trying to cancel Brexit and annul the referendum
Quite simply what is going on is a battle about leaving not remaining
Does anyone actually know how many MP's are campaigning to cancel Brexit?
A handful at most
Someone should point out that this headline is simply misleading the public to gain support
From the Express
Remain revolt will trigger election: Boris and Farage ARE ready for Brexit fight at polls
BORIS JOHNSON will call an election within days if Remainers succeed in blocking a no-deal Brexit.
There is NO remain revolt it's a fiction. yet another lie
The revolt is against no deal and a bad deal.
And that's the pity of it all.
What is going on is irrelevant and dishonest to pretend that the Remain faction is in fact a threat.
There are too few of them to represent what is now the major part of the voting public.
What we have is two bunches of thieves squabbling over the loot, not trying to give it back!
Ideals replaced with dogma that has turned beliefs into crimes
DOUGLAS MURRAY: We are going through a great mass derangement. In public and in private, people are behaving in ways that are increasingly irrational, feverish, herd-like and unpleasant.
A great paragraph quoted...
What are we all attempting to do on here?
OG. Clearly remain dont have their zealots. Logs and splinters perhaps.
discussing brexit in the most rational way and with the benefit of our much above average education.
Daveboy seems to find the truth is offensive language? read history, try this
How to establish supreme power
Even if those seeking supreme power cannot properly be described as nazis, the strategies and tactics they use will very likely be similar.
Trying to reason with people, more in hope than expectation that they may be better aware of reality, rather than the fiction presented by media propaganda of all types.Good article examing our seemingly silly situation in so many areas at moment.Ideals replaced with dogma that has turned beliefs into crimes
DOUGLAS MURRAY: We are going through a great mass derangement. In public and in private, people are behaving in ways that are increasingly irrational, feverish, herd-like and unpleasant.mol.im
A great paragraph quoted...
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What are we all attempting to do on here?
OG. Clearly remain dont have their zealots. Logs and splinters perhaps.
My point exactly, and since these methods work, they are employed.
I think that while it exists, it has not yet been made properly visible. Probably needs an OK from some real person to go fully live.
Or after the 31st Oct say Nov 5th and we still find ourselves out with a Hard Brexit - with Farage /BP having done its job levering BJ / Tories to its bidding...
Isn't that date rather, umm, significant with respect to those who sought to overthrow parliament?
Because there was a referendum.
I swear you are forgetting things more and more often.
You ask about three times a day why we are leaving.
Both sides can be wrong too. That's more likely.
But we have to honour the vote and democracy.
Of course the EU will do it's best to stop us making a success of it.
But leave we must.
that's the nub of the problem.
Both sides claim that democracy is on their side, with some success.
Honouring the vote is not the same as respecting our democratic system.
Of course Leave would like to equate democracy to respect of the vote, while remain claims that the rules were not respected thus they cannot accept the vote and wants a replay. While the referees ague with one another, some will claim that referees are corrupt while we spend billions to prepare for something that only the extremists would want.
Advisory only so not a good reason
Indeed not, and certainly not now the whole idea has been exposed as a tax Dodgers charter, and entirely against the interests of the public
Has it?
More drivel and fantasy.
You need to cool your jets. You are not doing your health any favours. You are going on full rage mode and upsetting yourself over something you have no control over.
Edit. Where did the money go that 'rescued' the Greeks? You talk about fantasist beliefs about tax dodging where I can prove to you how corrupt the EU is to the elite bankers.
The bailout money given to stop Greece going bankrupt came from the European Central Bank and the IMF, e.g. the taxpayers of France, Germany and other wealthy nations of Western Europe. None of that money went to help the ordinary people of Greece. All of it was used to make payments on the Greek government’s existing debt — mostly to banks in Western Europe. So Angela Merkel and other EU leaders effectively extorted money from their own taxpayers to hand it directly to the biggest European banks, mainly in their own countries- It was a direct wealth transfer from ordinary people to the financial elite. The same irresponsible financial elite who had plunged the world into chaos.
What about Italy? The 4th largest economy in the EU. It has a very broad manufacturing base. It should be absolutely in clover if the economic benefits of the EU are so great. Why do they have a growth rate of less than tenth of the global average over the past 20 years? Think about that.
The Euro is not weighted correctly. It's been baled out w times already. A new wave is just round the corner.
What about the migrant crisis? Paying Turkey to quietly sweep it up under their desert. w=With literally no plan but to hope the boats sink.
Corruption and Tax avoidance master classes are taught in Brussels.
And you think they are some benevolent uncle....
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