Brexit, for once some facts.

Fingers

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Had a good one today.

Went to buy a Google max speaker. I get that they may not suit everyone due to its listening capabilities but I have weighed it up and I want the connectivity and convenience. It is the future so **** it.

It's got an amazing sound for the price. I used to be a real snob and would have nothing less than bang and Olufsen but one moves on. I just want a really good sound that works with everything.

Anyway. It was 400 then 300 then yesterday it went down to 200. It was Google's way of competing with Amazon prime day. It's my birthday Tuesday I think and I said I want that for it. So we went out to John Lewis and sure enough the price today was 300 again. I got the phone out and said oh no my friend. It's 200. Look. It turned out the link was if a third party and when you clicked it went to 300..... blah blah blah they were very nice and offered it to me at 250. At a discount that would cost the manager his yearly comission. Reason he did that was because the assistant accused me of screen shotting the 200. I said no. I didn't want to hurt him and I didn't want to spend that anyway.

Long story short. I went to Curries and they still had yesterdays price up. Boom. They weren't happy and tried to take the price ticket away. Of course I took a picture and they realised it was not going to work. Remember. If a price is shown they have to honour it

Much huffing and puffing later I got the thing.

Happy days!

Edit. Because of me if you Google the Google max speaker every link bar John Lewis says it's still 199.
 
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Because of the way the BBC is funded, they can take risks with new and innovative programmes, and this sometimes yields timeless classics. Commercial stations need to keep one eye on the ratings, so tend to play it safe by regurgitating tried and tested formats, which soon become stale. The exception is Channel 4, which occasionally broadcast some great comedy.

Channel four isn't the exception as it is also funded with licence fee money.
 
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spotted this on twitter:

FARAGE: We had a choice of one candidate how is that democracy?

LUKE: Who voted for you as the Brexit party leader?
How many votes were cast for you as leader?

AWKWARD SILENCE

There is a difference here. Farage created the party which he now leads. If Farage hadn’t created it, the party wouldn’t exist, so I can’t see what is so outrageous about him leading. The next BXP leader, if there is one, will be chosen by way of election. I don’t know why everyone is getting a cock-stand about it.
 

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Driven from Munich down to Garmisch-Partenkirchen today. The hotel owner asked me if I’d had a good trip. With a completely straight face, I told him the traffic was a bit heavy on the outskirts of Frankfurt and that it had taken about 6.5 hours to reach his hotel. I’ve left him to contemplate this information.

I can’t believe the number of ebikes around here. I reckon they easily outnumber unassisted bikes. All are mainly Bosch powered. Incredible.

I saw one Cube ebike clearly aimed at children. It had a very small frame and Bosch motor. The kid riding it was about 10 years old and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a dwarf. I’m assuming the 14 year age limit doesn’t apply in Germany?
 
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Driven from Munich down to Garmisch-Partenkirchen today. The hotel owner asked me if I’d had a good trip. With a completely straight face, I told him the traffic was a bit heavy on the outskirts of Frankfurt and that it had taken about 6.5 hours to reach his hotel. I’ve left him to contemplate this information.

I can’t believe the number of ebikes around here. I reckon they easily outnumber unassisted bikes. All are mainly Bosch powered. Incredible.

I saw one Cube ebike clearly aimed at children. It had a very small frame and Bosch motor. The kid riding it was about 10 years old and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a dwarf. I’m assuming the 14 year age limit doesn’t apply in Germany?

People in Europe don't keep to the EU rules shock.

We are catching up. In town today is say 10 out of a hundred bikes were ebikes. Not including the lime or Uber bikes.
 

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My parents need a combi boiler fitted

Best they have been quoted is eon for 2600

Can anyone recommend better?
 

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Got to give it to Labour, they are great at coming up with policies to keep them out of power.

Wouldnt it be better to try an make "public" schools superfluous by raising funding and standards in state schools.
Having seen and worked with a few inner city schools I, d find cash to have my grand kids go elswwhere. Some are simply nightmares for poor kids having to to them. Closing private schools will simply drive the lot a step down.
 
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I saw one Cube ebike clearly aimed at children. It had a very small frame and Bosch motor. The kid riding it was about 10 years old and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a dwarf. I’m assuming the 14 year age limit doesn’t apply in Germany?
The 14 years old law is uniquely a UK nanny state measure.

When those who rule us woke up to the fact that from 1983, kids could ride bikes at 15 mph with a terrifying 200 watts of power assistance, they added the 14 years old lower limit to the Road Traffic Act 1988 but not to pedelec law. That RTA is of course motor vehicle law, while two other laws say pedelecs are not motor vehicles.

Everywhere else in Europe, kids can and do ride pedelecs at any age, as witness this Dutch 12 year old with his younger brother on board:

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The BBC is unique in the world.

It makes me laugh that they don't go on the attack and show examples across the workd.

For instance. In Germany you pay double what the BBC costs and get just 2 TV channels. No radio. No internet no regional stuff.

We have the best public broadcaster in the world but if course because it's successful it's hated by the dumb and the ones that profit from it's demise.

Once it's gone it will be a cultural hole that will never be filled again.

It's not perfect but it's the best around.
Good grief, sense from Fingers.
 
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The BBC is unique in the world.

It makes me laugh that they don't go on the attack and show examples across the workd.

For instance. In Germany you pay double what the BBC costs and get just 2 TV channels. No radio. No internet no regional stuff.

We have the best public broadcaster in the world but if course because it's successful it's hated by the dumb and the ones that profit from it's demise.

Once it's gone it will be a cultural hole that will never be filled again.

It's not perfect but it's the best around.
Trouble is Fingers when it lost impartiality it stopped simply being a broadcaster. Yes, parts are fantastic, but both its lack of impartiality and blatant self promotion signal its attempts to be something it shouldnt be.
The Saville debacle, much of its programming, its bias, its ridiculous wage structure are all far fron healthy. The license is not a license at all. Its a BBC tax.
I like the way the claim not to advertise yet come on and promote the next "star", record, programme or series. They advertise themselves continually and much of their output is bordering on brain washing. Count how many times that idiot Steve Wright chants "Disc jokin without a G". Its mindless sh! te but its hooked millions.
Yes, we dont have to listen. I try not to. Still have to pay for privilige of choosing not to.
 

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Had a good one today.

Went to buy a Google max speaker. I get that they may not suit everyone due to its listening capabilities but I have weighed it up and I want the connectivity and convenience. It is the future so **** it.

It's got an amazing sound for the price. I used to be a real snob and would have nothing less than bang and Olufsen but one moves on. I just want a really good sound that works with everything.

Anyway. It was 400 then 300 then yesterday it went down to 200. It was Google's way of competing with Amazon prime day. It's my birthday Tuesday I think and I said I want that for it. So we went out to John Lewis and sure enough the price today was 300 again. I got the phone out and said oh no my friend. It's 200. Look. It turned out the link was if a third party and when you clicked it went to 300..... blah blah blah they were very nice and offered it to me at 250. At a discount that would cost the manager his yearly comission. Reason he did that was because the assistant accused me of screen shotting the 200. I said no. I didn't want to hurt him and I didn't want to spend that anyway.

Long story short. I went to Curries and they still had yesterdays price up. Boom. They weren't happy and tried to take the price ticket away. Of course I took a picture and they realised it was not going to work. Remember. If a price is shown they have to honour it

Much huffing and puffing later I got the thing.

Happy days!

Edit. Because of me if you Google the Google max speaker every link bar John Lewis says it's still 199.
No. A retailer does not have to honour any listed price. A listed price is viewed as an invitation to treat not a contract. Now many companies will choose to honour it ,but it is not a right.
 

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Good grief, sense from Fingers.
Stopped clocks being right twice a day and all... But however. The BBC is genuinely viewed as a premier broadcaster and towards the forefront of technology. .. particularly audio. However they have lost their crown to some others.. The French transmission standards are better and the Japanese NTT have better video.
 
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Trouble is Fingers when it lost impartiality it stopped simply being a broadcaster. Yes, parts are fantastic, but both its lack of impartiality and blatant self promotion signal its attempts to be something it shouldnt be.
The Saville debacle, much of its programming, its bias, its ridiculous wage structure are all far fron healthy. The license is not a license at all. Its a BBC tax.
I like the way the claim not to advertise yet come on and promote the next "star", record, programme or series. They advertise themselves continually and much of their output is bordering on brain washing. Count how many times that idiot Steve Wright chants "Disc jokin without a G". Its mindless sh! te but its hooked millions.
Yes, we dont have to listen. I try not to. Still have to pay for privilige of choosing not to.

Firstly. It's "self promotion' is merely a tool to allow programs time to use their narrative to sustain. Sometimes a program ends at 57 mins. Or 26 mins. You have to fill that air time, commercial stations use adverts.

The BBC does use this more and more and yes. It is annoying. But its used to reclaim cash. For instance. All those natural history programmes that finish at 46 mins and then we get the 'how we made this' are mere fillers. To sell them abroad you have to factor in that in as space. Annoying but commercially important unless you want the price of the BBC to go above the current rate of 36p a day? That's less than a copy of the Sun 'newspaper' a day btw. What's better value?

The BBC is impartial. They tie themselves in knots to be impartial. I have been in edit suites where count the seconds a Tory speaks to a labour spokesperson. Sometimes to the detriment of the story.

Mistakes are made. To use saville is a joke. You might as well blame Diana for his crimes.

It's a tax that is totally without political influence. Of course various governments try. But it never works. It's a counter weight to their excess.

You more than most should realise this.
 
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Stopped clocks being right twice a day and all... But however. The BBC is genuinely viewed as a premier broadcaster and towards the forefront of technology. .. particularly audio. However they have lost their crown to some others.. The French transmission standards are better and the Japanese NTT have better video.

The French system was never better than pal.

Although nowadays things are digital so your argument is not just wrong but very out of date.

Japan is better but also worse than South Korea.

It's a silly war. 4k will never be the norm. Too expensive. The EBU is looking at HDR as standard now.
 
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No. A retailer does not have to honour any listed price. A listed price is viewed as an invitation to treat not a contract. Now many companies will choose to honour it ,but it is not a right.

Wrong again.

You always make the mistake of thinking Ireland is the UK.

Stockholm syndrome again.
 

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Had a good one today.

Went to buy a Google max speaker. I get that they may not suit everyone due to its listening capabilities but I have weighed it up and I want the connectivity and convenience. It is the future so **** it.

It's got an amazing sound for the price. I used to be a real snob and would have nothing less than bang and Olufsen but one moves on. I just want a really good sound that works with everything.

Anyway. It was 400 then 300 then yesterday it went down to 200. It was Google's way of competing with Amazon prime day. It's my birthday Tuesday I think and I said I want that for it. So we went out to John Lewis and sure enough the price today was 300 again. I got the phone out and said oh no my friend. It's 200. Look. It turned out the link was if a third party and when you clicked it went to 300..... blah blah blah they were very nice and offered it to me at 250. At a discount that would cost the manager his yearly comission. Reason he did that was because the assistant accused me of screen shotting the 200. I said no. I didn't want to hurt him and I didn't want to spend that anyway.

Long story short. I went to Curries and they still had yesterdays price up. Boom. They weren't happy and tried to take the price ticket away. Of course I took a picture and they realised it was not going to work. Remember. If a price is shown they have to honour it

Much huffing and puffing later I got the thing.

Happy days!

Edit. Because of me if you Google the Google max speaker every link bar John Lewis says it's still 199.
No. They do not have to honour any listed price. A listed price is viewed as an invitation to treat not a contract. Now many companies
 
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No. They do not have to honour any listed price. A listed price is viewed as an invitation to treat not a contract. Now many companies

Well how queer.

You must tell the managing director of Currys this at your next blarney meeting.

They literally have an option on their computer to say wrongly listed price...

Those idiots on the shop floor must be making it up!

In our country this is deemed a statutory right. They sometimes get away with it online. But it is very rare.
 

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The French system was never better than pal.

Although nowadays things are digital so your argument is not just wrong but very out of date.

Japan is better but also worse than South Korea.

It's a silly war. 4k will never be the norm. Too expensive. The EBU is looking at HDR as standard now.
Sorry..I watch French TV every year,and while the SECAM was better than the UK and Irish PAL,for colour, the French digital is still better and what we both use. Now the program content is another matter, and the French channels are obsessed with pre revolutionary costume drama,and game shows,..even more so than the UK.
Now I have not seen South Korea video. So cannot comment.
It might not be wise to get into a discussion with me about analogue or digital technical standards.
 
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Wrong again.

You always make the mistake of thinking Ireland is the UK.

Stockholm syndrome again.
Text taken from the citizens advice website UK ...

If something is advertised at the wrong price
This advice applies to England Print
If something you want to buy is advertised at the wrong price, you may be able to buy it at the lower price.

Buying in a shop
Your legal rights in a shop will depend on whether you’ve paid for the item yet or not.

If you haven’t bought it yet
If you take an item to the till and are told the price on the tag or label is a mistake, you don’t have a right to buy the item at the lower price. You could still try asking the seller to honour the price.

It’s the same if you see an item advertised anywhere for a lower price than the one on the price tag.
 
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Sorry..I watch French TV every year,and while the SECAM was better than the UK and Irish PAL,for colour, the French digital is still better and what we both use. Now the program content is another matter, and the French channels are obsessed with pre revolutionary costume drama,and game shows,..even more so than the UK.
Now I have not seen South Korea video. So cannot comment.
It might not be wise to get into a discussion with me about analogue or digital technical standards.

I agree. I don't want to get into a discussion with you about this.

I am a professional in this field who spent years at Evesham studying this and there is nothing more boring than arguing with someone who once watched something on telly and is now an expert.

It's beyond tiresome.
 
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