Brexit, for once some facts.
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This morning, I thought ABB Asea Brown Boveri had mounted a major advertising campaign.
But no, they hadn't. However, Anyone But Boris are in full war cry.
Stories of previous bad behaviour towards a wife, even if he wins the tory election, he'll not be PM, and on.
Sounds like there are many who despise, detest or otherwise despair at the thought of him making PM.
But no, they hadn't. However, Anyone But Boris are in full war cry.
Stories of previous bad behaviour towards a wife, even if he wins the tory election, he'll not be PM, and on.
Sounds like there are many who despise, detest or otherwise despair at the thought of him making PM.
The Telegraph announce the arrival of a competitor?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/29/nigel-farage-launch-new-brexiteer-newspaper-ahead-july-release/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw
"Nigel Farage unveils new 'Brexiteer' newspaper which sets out policies which he hopes will beat the Tories "
Mr Farage said the party will have selected the remaining 500 candidates by the end of next week after whittling down a long list of 3,000 applicants.
Fascinating The Telegraph is reported as down 10.4% in circulation since March this year, as are all the other Main Nationals, so you have to ask
Where is the money coming from for all this plotting and organising?
Are we supposed to assume it is all from small scale donations?
And since there is little chance of there being another GM in the short term, how much of this story is simply a pack of lies?
For the Telegraph to actually publish the story pretty much debunks it,or rather indicates that the "Brexiteer Newspaper" is actually the Telegraph itself posing as "Der Sturmer"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/29/nigel-farage-launch-new-brexiteer-newspaper-ahead-july-release/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw
"Nigel Farage unveils new 'Brexiteer' newspaper which sets out policies which he hopes will beat the Tories "
Mr Farage said the party will have selected the remaining 500 candidates by the end of next week after whittling down a long list of 3,000 applicants.
Fascinating The Telegraph is reported as down 10.4% in circulation since March this year, as are all the other Main Nationals, so you have to ask
Where is the money coming from for all this plotting and organising?
Are we supposed to assume it is all from small scale donations?
And since there is little chance of there being another GM in the short term, how much of this story is simply a pack of lies?
For the Telegraph to actually publish the story pretty much debunks it,or rather indicates that the "Brexiteer Newspaper" is actually the Telegraph itself posing as "Der Sturmer"
And...
How Brexit party won Euro elections on social media – simple, negative messages to older voters
Analysis highlights key to success of Farage party and identifies dozens of pro-Brexit bot accounts
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/29/how-brexit-party-won-euro-elections-on-social-media
As far as the government are concerned, dead is good. No more pension to pay, no more hospital costs, no care home fees. If they can kill you off, it’s win win win for the government. Where is their incentive to look after us.
Trouble is they are not the Tory party members who have the vote and who seem strongly pro Boris Johnson. They are predominantly old and very anti EU, hence the attraction of someone who says we'll leave the EU come what may.
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Although that looks logical, it's far from what has been happening. Governments of both persuasions have always backed life extending policies. There's flu jabs for the elderly and some other jabs such as dTpa against hooping cough on offer specifically for over 65s. There's also preferential scanning of the older ages for various conditions, and precautionary colonoscopies in later years.
You ask "Where is their incentive to look after us." It's not just caring, it's self interest since they get old too so they want to develop and perfect the best ways to extend healthy life.
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Yes, I agree, I was being facetious. There are quite a few precautionary tests available if you ask. Well person check, 5 Year Colonoscopy and PSA tests are the ones I’ve had. Not sure about the PSA, it can cause unnecessary anxiety/ intervention. The jury is out on that one.
Indeed, I've never bothered with the PSA test despite having BPH for 33 years now. My attitude from the beginning was to leave the prostate gland alone and not provoke trouble with a biopsy. It's worked for me for over three decades and still going strong. Aided by tamsulosin for some six years now the condition is actually considerably improving and looking increasingly like it's curing itself, at least partially.
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Would it not be the case that any person aspiring to the title of First or Prime Minister, would need a vote of the majority of the House?. As I see it, what is happening now is that a group of party members throughout the UK,will be voting their preference for the person to lead their party..but that does not make a PM.
No, the confidence vote is only needed for the Queen's Speech at the opening of a new session.
I wish that were true, but as Woosh has replied, it isn't.
The Tory party if elected will have the house majority and they wouldn't oppose the will of their loyal membership, so if the latter choose Johnson, he'll be PM.
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he still controls the HoC's business, so potentially can get brexit through unless 3 of his MPs want to perform seppuku.
I was hoping Farage would intervene sooner to discredit BJ but I fear he has let BJ off the hook.
More than three feel - with some validity - that hard brexit is sepuku and would I think vote against the government. Theres a difference between contesting ones seat against corbyn and a dodge ring labour party and doing so after ones party has inflicted a nuclear version of black wednesday on constituents. I dont think farage could discredit boris, I'm not sure leave voters would understand what that means.
Well one at least has indicated his willingness to vote against...and it would not be seppuku as the father of the house intends to retire.