Brexit, for once some facts.
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As fingers might say a view from the swamp.... The EU had their summit today, I believe it would have been Mrs Mays Swan Song...
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has warned that the EU has run out of patience with the UK and that there is “enormous hostility” among European leaders to any further Brexitextension beyond October.
“There is very much a strong view across the European Union that there shouldn’t be any more extensions,” Mr Varadkar said in Brussels on Thursday.
“While I have endless patience, some of my colleagues have lost patience quite frankly with the UK and there is enormous hostility to any further extension.
“So I think an extension could really only happen to facilitate something like a General Election in the UK or perhaps something like a second referendum if they decided to have one,” Mr Varadkar said.
“What won’t be entertained is an extension for further negotiations or further indicative votes – the time for that is long since past.”
Mr Varadkar was speaking before entering the two-day summit of EU leaders in Brussels, where the main business will be the allocation of top EU jobs for the next five years.
He played down the chances of a breakthrough on an agreement over who should lead the European Commission, the European Council, the European Parliament and the European Central Bank, indicating that a further summit may be required in the coming weeks to strike a deal.
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“It’s quicker to elect a Pope very often,” Mr Varadkar said.
Differences among EU leaders on who should get the jobs, including between France and Germany, as well as between the party groups in the new European Parliament continue despite a frantic last minute round of diplomacy and politicking on Thursday morning.
Irish commissioner
Mr Varadkar reiterated his Government’s backing for the EPP choice to head the European Commission, the German MEP Manfred Weber, but few in Brussels expect Mr Weber to overcome French opposition.
He declined to say whether the Government would nominate Irish Commissioner Phil Hogan for another term, though the move is widely expected in political circles.
“I’m not going to make that decision until we see who the President of the Commission and the President of the Council is, because, you know, there’s a certain balance to be had,” he said.
“Also, a crucial thing aside from the person who will be the next Commissioner for Ireland, is what portfolio we hold.
“Needless to say, we are going to want to have one that is influential,” Mr Varadkar said.
In a statement earlier in the day, after a meeting with the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier in advance of Thursday’s summit, Mr Varadkar said “Brexit negotiations can only happen with the EU and not with individual governments, and . . . the Withdrawal Agreement won’t be reopened.”
However, he indicated that the EU was willing to rewrite the political declaration which accompanies the withdrawal treaty, and which paves the way for the future trading relationship between the bloc and the UK once it leaves.
The statement said Mr Varadkar had a “very good meeting to review the current situation with Brexit”.
“Michael Barnier stressed the unity of the 27 members with Ireland and its commitment to the Withdrawal Agreement,”it said.
“The Taoiseach and Mr Barnier acknowledged that we now await the election of a new UK Prime Minister and hearing about their proposed ...
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has warned that the EU has run out of patience with the UK and that there is “enormous hostility” among European leaders to any further Brexitextension beyond October.
“There is very much a strong view across the European Union that there shouldn’t be any more extensions,” Mr Varadkar said in Brussels on Thursday.
“While I have endless patience, some of my colleagues have lost patience quite frankly with the UK and there is enormous hostility to any further extension.
“So I think an extension could really only happen to facilitate something like a General Election in the UK or perhaps something like a second referendum if they decided to have one,” Mr Varadkar said.
“What won’t be entertained is an extension for further negotiations or further indicative votes – the time for that is long since past.”
Mr Varadkar was speaking before entering the two-day summit of EU leaders in Brussels, where the main business will be the allocation of top EU jobs for the next five years.
He played down the chances of a breakthrough on an agreement over who should lead the European Commission, the European Council, the European Parliament and the European Central Bank, indicating that a further summit may be required in the coming weeks to strike a deal.
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- EU’s ‘mapping’ report stresses need for open Irish border
- Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt: The two Tories fighting it out to be PM
BREXIT: The Facts
Read them here
“It’s quicker to elect a Pope very often,” Mr Varadkar said.
Differences among EU leaders on who should get the jobs, including between France and Germany, as well as between the party groups in the new European Parliament continue despite a frantic last minute round of diplomacy and politicking on Thursday morning.
Irish commissioner
Mr Varadkar reiterated his Government’s backing for the EPP choice to head the European Commission, the German MEP Manfred Weber, but few in Brussels expect Mr Weber to overcome French opposition.
He declined to say whether the Government would nominate Irish Commissioner Phil Hogan for another term, though the move is widely expected in political circles.
“I’m not going to make that decision until we see who the President of the Commission and the President of the Council is, because, you know, there’s a certain balance to be had,” he said.
“Also, a crucial thing aside from the person who will be the next Commissioner for Ireland, is what portfolio we hold.
“Needless to say, we are going to want to have one that is influential,” Mr Varadkar said.
In a statement earlier in the day, after a meeting with the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier in advance of Thursday’s summit, Mr Varadkar said “Brexit negotiations can only happen with the EU and not with individual governments, and . . . the Withdrawal Agreement won’t be reopened.”
However, he indicated that the EU was willing to rewrite the political declaration which accompanies the withdrawal treaty, and which paves the way for the future trading relationship between the bloc and the UK once it leaves.
The statement said Mr Varadkar had a “very good meeting to review the current situation with Brexit”.
“Michael Barnier stressed the unity of the 27 members with Ireland and its commitment to the Withdrawal Agreement,”it said.
“The Taoiseach and Mr Barnier acknowledged that we now await the election of a new UK Prime Minister and hearing about their proposed ...
Whilst you are searching find the one about "neat deals". Thats another one you are prone to lying about.
Trouble is a poster writes one thing but that shows luttle resemblance to what you read and interpret .
I write "last week I was in India making preliminary investigations into feasability of a charter business ". And you read "Ah yes, he, s looking for neat deals courstesy of Brexit". Its all in your head OG. So, I suppose its not really lying. You believe your own propoganda.
Just try and be civil for once.
Actually you have a point, as there is no credible opposition on here any more as I pointed out yesterday, you really must make an effort to provide some.
My goodness in one breath you managed to remember one of your remarks then deny it?
That wasn't actually one I was intending to drag up from the past but it will do for a start.
Even now it seems to fail to understand you made it plain that Brexit was a gamble on your part for strictly person gain and you actually used the words "Neat deals" in that post.
However, I was thinking more along the lines of the one where you originally denied you had voted in the referendum, before subsequently confiming you had, remember?
And my replies are civil, and contain simple truth without fabrication.
Here is an example
Apr 20, 2018
I more or less thought exactly same a while ago Tillson. I did vote to leave and like you still believe if handled properly could lead to more opportunities...but its become such a fiasco that if we had ref2 I,d now vote remain.
My only reservation about May, at least she tried and stepped into breach. The grovelling excuse for a pm before here ran away...
I blame Cameron and Osborn more than May. They offered country two options and only had planning for one.
Can you imagine what folk on a boat would think if I offered 2 destinations for them but jumped overboard when they chose one of them. Madness.
Sort of.." Well you,ve chosen , now you lot can get us there, but by the way I,m jumping ship"...Was doomed from that very announcement of Cameron's resignation.
And on the subject of polite responses, here is a shining example
Apr 9, 2018
You are definitely trolling now...feck awf again.
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I love it, I really do
And here is your official retirement message
Feb 17, 2018
Wise words indeed OG. We should all try and follow your wisdom on this ...both sides of the divide..( and I,m not being sarcastic)
Feeling quite mellow at moment...I,m in Vietnam and having appointment for heart procedure on my return I promised consultant I,d take it easy...he,s going to be a bit " pissed off" ( as wife is) I,ve broken 2 ribs windsurfing...currently enjoying solpedol , beer and Dire Straits..They are very sore...( ribs that is...not Dire Straits) Ahwell. Love Vietnam...can get on with what I came for now. Hopefully..
I ain't commenting on Brexit anymore. You lot sort it out..Good luck. You,ll need it.
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promises, promises! somehow springs to mind.I respectfully remind you of this remark
"Trouble is a poster writes one thing but that shows luttle resemblance to what you read and interpret ."
Note to self; look up the word "luttle"
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Unlike BJ who says he did vote in the council elections then remembered (was reminded, I am sure) they were not being held in his location.
We're now supposed to listen to Varadkar? Huh?As fingers might say a view from the swamp.... The EU had their summit today, I believe it would have been Mrs Mays Swan Song...
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has warned that the EU has run out of patience with the UK and that there is “enormous hostility” among European leaders to any further Brexitextension beyond October.
“There is very much a strong view across the European Union that there shouldn’t be any more extensions,” Mr Varadkar said in Brussels on Thursday.
“While I have endless patience, some of my colleagues have lost patience quite frankly with the UK and there is enormous hostility to any further extension.
“So I think an extension could really only happen to facilitate something like a General Election in the UK or perhaps something like a second referendum if they decided to have one,” Mr Varadkar said.
“What won’t be entertained is an extension for further negotiations or further indicative votes – the time for that is long since past.”
Mr Varadkar was speaking before entering the two-day summit of EU leaders in Brussels, where the main business will be the allocation of top EU jobs for the next five years.
He played down the chances of a breakthrough on an agreement over who should lead the European Commission, the European Council, the European Parliament and the European Central Bank, indicating that a further summit may be required in the coming weeks to strike a deal.
Related
- Tory leadership race comes down to Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt
- EU’s ‘mapping’ report stresses need for open Irish border
- Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt: The two Tories fighting it out to be PM
BREXIT: The Facts
Read them here
“It’s quicker to elect a Pope very often,” Mr Varadkar said.
Differences among EU leaders on who should get the jobs, including between France and Germany, as well as between the party groups in the new European Parliament continue despite a frantic last minute round of diplomacy and politicking on Thursday morning.
Irish commissioner
Mr Varadkar reiterated his Government’s backing for the EPP choice to head the European Commission, the German MEP Manfred Weber, but few in Brussels expect Mr Weber to overcome French opposition.
He declined to say whether the Government would nominate Irish Commissioner Phil Hogan for another term, though the move is widely expected in political circles.
“I’m not going to make that decision until we see who the President of the Commission and the President of the Council is, because, you know, there’s a certain balance to be had,” he said.
“Also, a crucial thing aside from the person who will be the next Commissioner for Ireland, is what portfolio we hold.
“Needless to say, we are going to want to have one that is influential,” Mr Varadkar said.
In a statement earlier in the day, after a meeting with the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier in advance of Thursday’s summit, Mr Varadkar said “Brexit negotiations can only happen with the EU and not with individual governments, and . . . the Withdrawal Agreement won’t be reopened.”
However, he indicated that the EU was willing to rewrite the political declaration which accompanies the withdrawal treaty, and which paves the way for the future trading relationship between the bloc and the UK once it leaves.
The statement said Mr Varadkar had a “very good meeting to review the current situation with Brexit”.
“Michael Barnier stressed the unity of the 27 members with Ireland and its commitment to the Withdrawal Agreement,”it said.
“The Taoiseach and Mr Barnier acknowledged that we now await the election of a new UK Prime Minister and hearing about their proposed ...
Just why...
Would anyone want to be tory leader? What a lovely bunch.
Mark Field: police receive reports of assault after minister grabs climate protester
Calls for Mark Field to resign over Mansion House incident while another Tory MP reports abusive messages from party colleague
which continues with:
Also on Thursday night, Sandbach posted an image on social media of messages she said were from a colleague and suggested that similar abuse had been behind the decisions of three female former Tory MPs to leave the Conservative party.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/20/greenpeace-activists-target-philip-hammond-speech-in-climate-protest
Would anyone want to be tory leader? What a lovely bunch.
Mark Field: police receive reports of assault after minister grabs climate protester
Calls for Mark Field to resign over Mansion House incident while another Tory MP reports abusive messages from party colleague
which continues with:
Also on Thursday night, Sandbach posted an image on social media of messages she said were from a colleague and suggested that similar abuse had been behind the decisions of three female former Tory MPs to leave the Conservative party.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/20/greenpeace-activists-target-philip-hammond-speech-in-climate-protest
You are a 'European'. Sure. OK. If you say so. I think the polling shows that around 7% of the UK population identify as that. The lowest of any EU member.
We are also supposed to listen to Jesus, Buddha, the prophet, or whoever else.
Or are we supposed to confine our listing to those with UK passports?
I do hope they were arrested and will be charged. The protestors I mean.
Nobody in the UK really gives a rats arse what Varadkar says.
If Field were so totally innocent, he would not have apologised.
In a statement, he apologised to the woman and said he would refer himself to the Cabinet Office over the incident.
Two wrongs do not make a right?
Do you want someone without sufficient self-control to be a minister?
Ha ha ha ha ha you naughty Oyster you! it's cruel to mock the afflicted!
Well. look on the bright side, at least you've got company
You can't beat the fascist principle of justice
"The correct amount of suppresion solves any problem
The plebs need an example to keep them in their place"
"Welcome to Brexit Britain
part of the MAGA Family of corporate enterprises"
You really are on drugs. They were all exactly as I described .. I have believed in Brexit throughout and still do but for a few reasons, already explained, would vote (probably) to remain.My goodness in one breath you managed to remember one of your remarks then deny it?
That wasn't actually one I was intending to drag up from the past but it will do for a start.
Even now it seems to fail to understand you made it plain that Brexit was a gamble on your part for strictly person gain and you actually used the words "Neat deals" in that post.
However, I was thinking more along the lines of the one where you originally denied you had voted in the referendum, before subsequently confiming you had, remember?
And my replies are civil, and contain simple truth without fabrication.
Here is an example
Apr 20, 2018
I more or less thought exactly same a while ago Tillson. I did vote to leave and like you still believe if handled properly could lead to more opportunities...but its become such a fiasco that if we had ref2 I,d now vote remain.
My only reservation about May, at least she tried and stepped into breach. The grovelling excuse for a pm before here ran away...
I blame Cameron and Osborn more than May. They offered country two options and only had planning for one.
Can you imagine what folk on a boat would think if I offered 2 destinations for them but jumped overboard when they chose one of them. Madness.
Sort of.." Well you,ve chosen , now you lot can get us there, but by the way I,m jumping ship"...Was doomed from that very announcement of Cameron's resignation.
And on the subject of polite responses, here is a shining example
Apr 9, 2018
You are definitely trolling now...feck awf again.
..........................................................
I love it, I really do
And here is your official retirement message
Feb 17, 2018
Wise words indeed OG. We should all try and follow your wisdom on this ...both sides of the divide..( and I,m not being sarcastic)
Feeling quite mellow at moment...I,m in Vietnam and having appointment for heart procedure on my return I promised consultant I,d take it easy...he,s going to be a bit " pissed off" ( as wife is) I,ve broken 2 ribs windsurfing...currently enjoying solpedol , beer and Dire Straits..They are very sore...( ribs that is...not Dire Straits) Ahwell. Love Vietnam...can get on with what I came for now. Hopefully..
I ain't commenting on Brexit anymore. You lot sort it out..Good luck. You,ll need it.
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I respectfully remind you of this remark
"Trouble is a poster writes one thing but that shows luttle resemblance to what you read and interpret ."
Note to self; look up the word "luttle"
Sorry, OG, I havent the time or inclination to waste more time with you. This is definitely my last response to you. I dont know how you pass your time but you must have hours and hours every day to throw away to spend so much of your life on this thread. Its such a shame.
we have to listen to him.
he holds the key to the door.
Don't you know that irish chappie is a Heretic who denies the Enlightenment of Holy Brexit?
They Curse his cooking pot and colander and all his fixtures and fittings in the shrine to Corporate flatulence in Tufton Street, on a daily basis.