Brexit, for once some facts.
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Again I can agree to an extent, . As I wrote at the time there were and presumably still are three camos in the HoC. 30% against any form of Remain 30% against any form of Leaving and 30% willing to accept any solution.
I asked who 50,not for a list of criteria.
Who do you propose? May wasnt great but both her and her deal represented a much better compromise for country than anything else on offer.
You are at worst brothel in town looking for Salma Hayek. "sorry sir, she isnt available here"
I agree with premise but not the maths. As you have it an agreed solution would be found. They seem incapable of doing that so something must be wrong,unless ofcourse your 30% willing to accept any solution only accept solutions not on offer... Which with our MPs is possible.
Remember It was both remain & leave MPs that voted against May's deal as it was satisfiactory to neither side. On the BBC4 documentary StoryvilleBrexit: Behind Closed Doors following the EU side in Brussels they caught EU officials i.e Verhofstadt equally scathing about remainers & leavers effectively blocking the Brexit process - at least for the camera, when they were watching the sequence of losing votes taking place live from Westminster on TV.
BBC Four - Storyville, Brexit: Behind Closed Doors, Part 1
The Brexit negotiations from the point of view of Europe.
EU officials privately branded Theresa May's Brexit strategy 'insane' and 'pathetic', film reveals
'What the f*** is wrong with her', a concerned official said on camera
www.independent.co.uk
In fact, not very different from any other similar job outside politics.
You forgot to add that youre at the worst brothel in town because you told your wife and family (eu) to **** off and became infatuated with an obese flatulent tart with a mop of white hair and a penchant for pathological lying whom you slavishly followed (to the worst brothel in town). Youre challenge is not to find the least infectious sex worker in the cheapest brothel in town: it is to work out what madness made you end up in it.
Comedy in the Telegraph
"Boris promise of 'guts and courage' secures Tory race lead with backing of 81 MPs
proving just how stupid they really are
and already he has abandoned a "No Deal Brexit"
From the Independent
"After three years and two missed deadlines, we must leave the EU on 31 October and we must do better than the current withdrawal agreement that has been rejected three times by parliament.”
Hands up anyone who trusts this guttersnipe to do that?
"Boris promise of 'guts and courage' secures Tory race lead with backing of 81 MPs
proving just how stupid they really are
and already he has abandoned a "No Deal Brexit"
From the Independent
"After three years and two missed deadlines, we must leave the EU on 31 October and we must do better than the current withdrawal agreement that has been rejected three times by parliament.”
Hands up anyone who trusts this guttersnipe to do that?
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it has always been the case that opposition parties will try to stop brexit and they have so far succeeded in at least delaying the process.
TM is just an unlucky PM, she stood still in the middle of the road where two juggernauts are heading in opposite directions.
This is straight out of the same barrel of horse **** which brought us phrases such as Brexit means Brexit, and No Deal is Better than a Bad Deal.
And still people continue to allow themselves to be conned. Just how much evidence is required before the penny drops? There is nothing in Brexit for the average man or woman, you aren’t going to get a share of the spoils, you will pay, the privileged will collect. They. even despise you for your gullibility.
not all the people, just 313 conservative MPs and possibly about 100,000 conservative membership.
For the rest of us, GE is the time we'll give our verdict.
I find the worrying prospect is Trumpism: you can do and say anything if you can get away with it.
As seen mainly in the right wing press and 7 out of the 10 PM candidates.
BTW, I'd like to see Javid and Stewart in the next round.
Yes. Watching him at the launch of his campaign I got the distinct feeling he is going to win this thing. The man has style. And it's not that difficult to argue that the EU put him there because of the hard line they took with May - they've now got the very person/type of person they did not want. But then again - I actually think - as I think you do - that he will in some ways bend more than May - because he has enough of the 'likeability-factor' with most of the British public (who will flock back to the Tory's from Farage if its him at the helm) - to allow him to do so.
And if he can get some kind of a Brexit through - which I think he will - then call a GE - which he will win handsomely.
Every penny the pound slides makes our exports easier to sell. You have a tendency to only focus on the negative.
Huh? Winning the London Major twice in a totally Labour controlled city? Backing the less-fancied 'Leave' campaign when he was set up to go with the odd-on favourite 'Remain' ?
The man is a born winner.
Probably why so many people around here don't like him.
'Must not lie'? Ha! You honestly think you can survive in politics without the odd lie here and there?
Bless you but it's time to grow up.
Do you think we would have won the war if Churchill and the government had told the truth about the situation we were in? No. No chance. Morale is key.
Remember - most if not all people do not vote based on rational facts-based decisions - they vote on feelings.
You really do like the sound of your own voice don't you. And you talk about 'gullibility'.
Take a look in the mirror sometime.
Not if you want to succeed! What is it with you people thinking you can do well in life without lying? People lie. You lie. I lie. Everybody lies. You do it every day in small ways and the more people 'under' you the more you have to lie. And by those lies you lead. How do you think we won the war? By telling people the truth? Ha. Grow up.
It depends on how you define winning. If you are ok with winning at any cost, sacrificing morality and ethics for example, then yes, Johnson is your winner, the standard you admire and strive to achieve.
I can give you multiple examples of where Johnson has lied, failed, cheated and deceived, but I have no need to quote them because you are just as aware as I am. What separates us is that you believe that this behaviour makes a person a winner, whereas I don’t.