Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Hey Fingers - I think Danny boy actually wants to argue with you - but due to his not paying much attention to much of anything (including who the fc uk he's talking to) - he's trying to argue the point with me.

Remainers eh? Like I've said - I thought it was us leavers who were supposed to be the thick ones.

Instead of being boring, how about posting something in support of Brexit?

 

[Fingers]

Hey Fingers - I think Danny boy actually wants to argue with you - but due to his not paying much attention to much of anything (including who the fc uk he's talking to) - he's trying to argue the point with me.

Remainers eh? Like I've said - I thought it was us leavers who were supposed to be the thick ones.

I was having a chuckle at that too from our resident genius. Well not really resident in the UK of course genius.

Classic Stockholm syndrome behaviour.

 

[oldgroaner]

More like you check to see if it already agrees with the nonsense masquerading as knowledge that continues to make on-going futile attempts to fill the vacuum between your ears.

back to personal attacks? and this from a guy who poses this question? "I thought it was us leavers who were supposed to be the thick "
What a comedian! but no doubt in the local Conservative Association they have you down as a "Dangerous intellectual"

 

[Fingers]

Instead of being boring, how about posting something in support of Brexit?

He's not being boring.

 

[oldgroaner]

I was having a chuckle at that too from our resident genius. Well not really resident in the UK of course genius.

Classic Stockholm syndrome behaviour.

You will never get that right will you?

 

[oldgroaner]

He's not being boring.

Only to another of the same mental capacity

 

[OxygenJames]

You are in fact defeatists and a liabilty.

Looks like it's not just Danny boy who needs lessons in English.

 

[OxygenJames]

I was having a chuckle at that too from our resident genius. Well not really resident in the UK of course genius.

Classic Stockholm syndrome behaviour.

Fish in a barrel sometimes. But WTF. I've got nothing to do till the missus fixes my tea so what better than go bash some remainers.

(if that doesn't make them happy as they slot me firmly into their pre-conceived ideas of what the average leaver looks like then Donald Trump is not having tea with the Queen).

 

[OxygenJames]

..back to personal attacks?

Says OG who only a few posts ago said this:

"mine is that we shouldn't have encouraged President Fart to come here"

So you can post personal attacks but I can't yes?

Is that the rule?

That's remainer logic for you. One rule for us - another for them.

 

[50Hertz]

The U.K. certainly seem able to stage magnificent state ceremonies. Donald Trump’s visit is no exception. I would imagine that US tv viewers watching proceedings are very impressed.

By contrast, the protesters were shown on TV too. What a bunch of misfits, weirdos and bell-ends. I hope the protests are shown in the US too. The Americans should gather from the images that the protesters don’t represent the general U.K. population. Just a minority of soap dodging crack-pots with a disproportionately high profile from which to stage their nuttiness.

 

[daveboy]

...... Full stops use as appropriate. Now it is your standard operating practice to change the question when confronted. You insist on claiming that you can vote multiple times on the HoC Petition website. But of course you do not experimentally verify that. My stance is that until you can , your position is unverified. It is my standard practice to persist in keeping on track.
Bluntly I do not care whether the HoC Petition systen is riddled with error ,as you continue to remind me, it is not my country . However I do suspect that the UK civil service is not moronic,and do have competent programmers. You are making unverified claims.

According to fullfact.org, You could sign the petition twice using the same email address and as many times as you liked using different email addresses .
You could use any name you wanted and somebody signed using Mrs May and put their address as 10 Downing street.
It was also suggested Donald Duck and Micky Mouse signed.

Is it possible to repeatedly sign a parliamentary petition using the same email address? - Full Fact

It’s possible to use the same email address to sign the Revoke Article 50 petition up to two times.

fullfact.org

 

[oldgroaner]

Why? What it we're happy with the product as it is? In which case buy it from somebody else. There is no compulsion to compete.

Please stop,you are only making it more and more obvious you don't grasp even basic principles of how we are going to have to change if you want to make Brexit work
Your ideas will make us a sitting duck to be taken to the cleaners, but then that's what you want isn't it? to make America great again, by selling us short.
"Please sir can I have more?"
What you propose is dangerous stupidity, to make a quick profit and to hell with the future.
Standard Tory doctrin

 

[OxygenJames]

Please stop,you are only making it more and more obvious you don't grasp even basic principles of how we are going to have to change if you want to make Brexit work
Your ideas will make us a sitting duck to be taken to the cleaners, but then that's what you want isn't it? to make America great again, by selling us short.
"Please sir can I have more?"
What you propose is dangerous stupidity, to make a quick profit and to hell with the future.
Standard Tory doctrin

OG completely misunderstanding how economics work.

Mind you........ you're dealing with a socialist here. And you know what they say about socialists?

If you don't vote for them in your 20s you have no heart - if you're still voting for them in your 50s you have no head.

 

[oldgroaner]

According to fullfact.org, You could sign the petition twice using the same email address and as many times as you liked using different email addresses .
You could use any name you wanted and somebody signed using Mrs May and put their address as 10 Downing street.
It was also suggested Donald Duck and Micky Mouse signed.

Is it possible to repeatedly sign a parliamentary petition using the same email address? - Full Fact

It’s possible to use the same email address to sign the Revoke Article 50 petition up to two times.

fullfact.org

So in fact they didn't say you could sign the petition repeatedly they said you could sign it only twice
"
Conclusion
It’s possible to use the same email address twice but no more than that.
"
A House of Commons spokesperson told us “Many people share an email account with a partner or do not have access to email. To ensure that the petitions system is as accessible as possible, up to two people can sign from the same email address. An email address can only be used twice.


“The number of these signatures is strictly monitored to ensure that this feature is not abused. The number of these signatures on the article 50 petition is within the normal range—around 1%.


“The Government Digital Service have a number of ways of identifying and preventing fraudulent activity based around blocking, removing and monitoring signatures as appropriate.


“Some types of fraud are monitored to ensure that it does not affect the integrity of the petition. Evidence of fraud may affect whether the Petitions Committee choose to act on the petition.


“We do not comment in detail on fraud. Ideally someone who has tried to fraudulently sign the petition would never realise that they have failed.”


We verified this by testing the petition system, attempting to sign a petition three times from the same email account using different false names each time. On the first two occasions we were told our signature had been added to the petition, but on the third time the system told us we couldn’t sign again as we’d used that email address before.


We subsequently asked the Petitions Committee to remove our test signatures, which it has now done.

Why are you still pushing this long dead issua,have you nothing else?

 

[Danidl]

I never said that.

.. I apologize..it was your alter ego or conjoined twin Mr Fingers, ..the methods are so similar I have difficulty in distinguishing between the postings. As I recall it was 5 times.

 

[OxygenJames]

According to fullfact.org, You could sign the petition twice using the same email address and as many times as you liked using different email addresses .
You could use any name you wanted and somebody signed using Mrs May and put their address as 10 Downing street.
It was also suggested Donald Duck and Micky Mouse signed.

Will the arrival of some actual facts change Danny's mind?

Stay tuned.

 

[OxygenJames]

.. I apologize..it was your alter ego or conjoined twin Mr Fingers, ..the methods are so similar I have difficulty in distinguishing between the postings. As I recall it was 5 times.

Fingers and myself were separated at birth after a 9hr operation - forced into two different families and grew apart after years of neglect.

Your mistake is understandable. Go forth and sin no more.

 

[daveboy]

Agai

So in fact they didn't say you could sign the petition repeatedly they said you could sign it only twice
"
Conclusion
It’s possible to use the same email address twice but no more than that.
"
A House of Commons spokesperson told us “Many people share an email account with a partner or do not have access to email. To ensure that the petitions system is as accessible as possible, up to two people can sign from the same email address. An email address can only be used twice.


“The number of these signatures is strictly monitored to ensure that this feature is not abused. The number of these signatures on the article 50 petition is within the normal range—around 1%.


“The Government Digital Service have a number of ways of identifying and preventing fraudulent activity based around blocking, removing and monitoring signatures as appropriate.


“Some types of fraud are monitored to ensure that it does not affect the integrity of the petition. Evidence of fraud may affect whether the Petitions Committee choose to act on the petition.


“We do not comment in detail on fraud. Ideally someone who has tried to fraudulently sign the petition would never realise that they have failed.”


We verified this by testing the petition system, attempting to sign a petition three times from the same email account using different false names each time. On the first two occasions we were told our signature had been added to the petition, but on the third time the system told us we couldn’t sign again as we’d used that email address before.


We subsequently asked the Petitions Committee to remove our test signatures, which it has now done.

Why are you still pushing this long dead issua,have you nothing else?

Time and time again you only read what you want to read.....Same Email twice. I have 4 Emails so could have voted 8 times....As for pushing this long dead issue, I was replying to Danidl's post ( is that not allowed) next time read the post I've replied to and not just what I've put. again I think you get a bit over excited.

 

[oldgroaner]

OG completely misunderstanding how economics work.

Mind you........ you're dealing with a socialist here. And you know what they say about socialists?

If you don't vote for them when you're in your 20s you have no heart - if you're still voting for them in your 50s you have no head.

Another borrowed nonsense quote? how trite!
And your so competent Conservatives have really cocked up the economy for years

I know what they say about socialist, but I also know what they say about Conservatives
They used to call them "Vermin"
This is wrong and unfair,for as we have seen demonstrated with the farce of the referendum they are actually
"Incompetent and Bungling" as well, and are now trying to select a candidate for the top job from a bunch of the same incompetent and bungling idiots that have been making this mess even worse.

What a sorry state the party is in to have to pick from that bunch , I can't imagine a worse choice to have to make. and in the Background Farage's minions are signing on as Party members to create a fascist rebirth in the ranks.

 

[oldgroaner]

Agai

Time and time again you only read what you want to read.....Same Email twice. I have 4 Emails so could have voted 8 times....As for pushing this long dead issue, I was replying to Danidl's post ( is that not allowed) next time read the post I've replied to and not just what I've put. again I think you get a bit over excited.

I merely expanded on the post you are the one getting excited