Brexit, for once some facts.

50Hertz

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TM is given 2 weeks by the tories backbenchers but JC can make it last a lot longer.
Next week: EP election.
The week after: the WAB.
If JC tells his MPs to abstain, the bill will pass, the ERG will be facing defeat because remainer MPs can table amendnents for a soft brexit or second referendum with a good chance of success.

I don’t see how May’s deal passing can be good news. It sounds like a Labour Cop-Out. Trying to be all things to all people and failing.
 
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I don’t see how May’s deal passing can be good news. It sounds like a Labour Cop-Out. Trying to be all things to all people and failing.
I am interested in the ERG's defeat.

These people told voters to vote for brexit and assured us that we can negotiate quickly a good deal with the EU and the world.
As it looks like we won't, they now tell us that we have to have no deal so that we can negotiate quickly a good deal with the EU and the world.
Passing the WAB is the legal way to rule out no deal. MPs can then tie the bill to a soft brexit or second referendum.
 

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Now that we learn there is a Timetable for the Timetable of TM leaving no 10, Boris has declared his intention the make a fool of himself (OK bigger fool) in going for the job.

Spare a thought for poor Lord Nigel if he succeeds!
 
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Here's a very interesting interview with Rod Liddle, where he comments on Brexit, media bias and modern politics. lots of points for discussion.
 
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This of course is a perfect description of all Brexit voters . You should be ashamed of yourself.
Funny you should say that but excluding politicians ,who support unconditional Brexit.. who tend to be very ernest, young, well dressed in cheap undertaker type suits ,.. (Anne Widdecome, obviously excluded), the people who are very vocal on the tv news vox pops tend to be exactly that description.
 
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This of course is a perfect description of all Brexit voters . You should be ashamed of yourself.

Yes, I saw one on the news yesterday, punctuating every sentence with WTO. It’s strange that 18 months ago, no one hardly mentioned WTO, now the shaven headed fat necks are throwing the term around like they are experts in the field.

I don’t understand. If operating under WTO is such a great trading position, guaranteed to deliver prosperity, why aren’t countries migrating towards it? Instead, the WTO is dying, shrinking, offering hardly any advantages or protections as countries move in the opposite direction towards trading blocks, such as the one we are currently in.

WTO has become the new strap-line for the shaven headed, fat-necked Brexit Dads. I doubt they have the remotest idea what it means or the potential adverse implications.
 

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I’ve just seen a group of old codgers (who will probably be dead in two months time) on the news wittering on about the lack of Brexit. One said she thought Theresa May was a marvellous Home Secretary, but a poor Prime Minister because she’s not got us out of the EU. Sums up that old duffer’s judgement nicely.
 

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Funny you should say that but excluding politicians ,who support unconditional Brexit.. who tend to be very ernest, young, well dressed in cheap undertaker type suits ,.. (Anne Widdecome, obviously excluded), the people who are very vocal on the tv news vox pops tend to be exactly that description.
Over age 55, 61% of women voted to leave ( after shaving their heads obviously)
 
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No surprise. But there are several ways of taking that.

Nigel Farage’s funding secrets revealed

Channel 4 News investigation reveals how millionaire Arron Banks spent approximately £450,000 on Nigel Farage to fund lavish lifestyle the year following the EU referendum in summer 2016.

https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farages-funding-secrets-revealed
 

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The Daily Mail front paged the scandal of Farage's Finance by Banks
The readers comments either reflect the views of bots or in many cases morons
heres a sample
"Here we go again. Trying to rubbish a politician just because he's popular. Let's hope the people ignore all this rubbish and use their vote wisely."

"Fantastic Investment as is our £25 pounds"

"I don't care about his private expenses, vote Brexit !!"

"So what ? If someone wants to help a friend who¿s business is that? Nigel Farage is an honest man, loyal to his wife, children and County. Don¿t try to discredit someone of the highest integrity"

"Well done Mr Banks, a true patriot, not many left"

"At least it was donor's money!!! Not taxpayers!!! Do you remember CaMoroon spending 9 MILLION taxpayers money!"

I can't resist pointing out that Cameron was required by law to spend that money.

As can be seen there is as I said before no sense whatever in trying to reason with brexit voters, the lights may be on but no ones home.

What a nation, the only one in the world where you can put your name down to be mugged, gloat as you are, and then be stupid enough to boast about it!
 

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The Daily Mail front paged the scandal of Farage's Finance by Banks
The readers comments either reflect the views of bots or in many cases morons
heres a sample
"Here we go again. Trying to rubbish a politician just because he's popular. Let's hope the people ignore all this rubbish and use their vote wisely."

"Fantastic Investment as is our £25 pounds"

"I don't care about his private expenses, vote Brexit !!"

"So what ? If someone wants to help a friend who¿s business is that? Nigel Farage is an honest man, loyal to his wife, children and County. Don¿t try to discredit someone of the highest integrity"

"Well done Mr Banks, a true patriot, not many left"

"At least it was donor's money!!! Not taxpayers!!! Do you remember CaMoroon spending 9 MILLION taxpayers money!"

I can't resist pointing out that Cameron was required by law to spend that money.

As can be seen there is as I said before no sense whatever in trying to reason with brexit voters, the lights may be on but no ones home.

What a nation, the only one in the world where you can put your name down to be mugged, gloat as you are, and then be stupid enough to boast about it!
It is The Daily Fail, who have purchased the Conservative party, so any group other than true Tory is going to be smeared and discredited.

How many of these idiots were demanding WTO? :)
 
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Looking at MPs “work schedule “ it appears that there is only 53 working days before the Brexit extension expires! In which other job, anywhere on the planet, would you get away with this? Could you imagine if your boss gave you a task, with a deadline to meet, and you failed, so he/she gave you a generous extension to the deadline, then you told the boss you were only coming into the office 2.2 days per week? Your desk would be cleared and you’d be down the road before 10:00 am.

And then they sack a Royal Navy Captain for driving his Navy supplied Ford Galaxy on a Saturday, when he’s not supposed to. FFS.

I’m not saying Farage is any better, but yet again these retards are giving him all the ammunition he needs. Playing straight into his hands.

I bet Farage and his Brexit party won’t be pi$$ing the summer away, they will be busily milking this situation for all it’s worth.
 
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The Daily Mail front paged the scandal of Farage's Finance by Banks
The readers comments either reflect the views of bots or in many cases morons
heres a sample
"Here we go again. Trying to rubbish a politician just because he's popular. Let's hope the people ignore all this rubbish and use their vote wisely."

"Fantastic Investment as is our £25 pounds"

"I don't care about his private expenses, vote Brexit !!"

"So what ? If someone wants to help a friend who¿s business is that? Nigel Farage is an honest man, loyal to his wife, children and County. Don¿t try to discredit someone of the highest integrity"

"Well done Mr Banks, a true patriot, not many left"

"At least it was donor's money!!! Not taxpayers!!! Do you remember CaMoroon spending 9 MILLION taxpayers money!"

I can't resist pointing out that Cameron was required by law to spend that money.

As can be seen there is as I said before no sense whatever in trying to reason with brexit voters, the lights may be on but no ones home.

What a nation, the only one in the world where you can put your name down to be mugged, gloat as you are, and then be stupid enough to boast about it!
brexit appears to be a form of mass hysteria. Hence, logic cannot work, I fear.
 

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I’m not saying Farage is any better, but yet again these retards are giving him all the ammunition he needs. Playing straight into his hands.
no, delaying is the best way to tell the electorate that it can't be done.
 
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50Hertz

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The assembled thoughts of Chairman Farage
it's astonishing that so may people actually believe that this villain is some sort of"Champion of the People"
Unfortunately, when he’s viewed against the current backdrop of imbeciles, retards, quota fillers and incompetent people filling government positions, he looks very appealing. It’s a big problem.
 

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