Brexit, for once some facts.

Zlatan

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I'm not complaining. I'm just pointing out facts because I'm worried for other people that are not so well informed. It's surprising how many people are unaware of how unreliable and inaccurate the media are in their reporting, like people here using quotes from the Guardian of all publications. Trust Pilot is completely independent. Anybody can post there. That's where you get the truth.
Think you, ll find Guardian has been slated plenty of times by many over last three years. Because a couple insist on quoting it doesnt mean the rest of us believe it, or any other publication. They all have some axe to grind. All of them.
 

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in my local surgery they are closed Weds pm and Fri pm.
According to the article I posted, The average doctor now works 3 and 1/3 days a week.
It doesn't necessarily mean they are not working. My local surgery has two afternoon closures, but the practice has two surgery locations and the three doctors work across both. Between the two surgeries they are always open and doctors working.
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True, take graves disease (form of hyperthyroidism with proptosis- to remain on topic, a kind of medically induced nigel farage bulging eyeball look), often the result of an almost insignificant degree of overactivity.
Quite right. It is perfectly possible for someone who is hypothyroid (and never was nor will be hyperthyroid) to suffer Graves Eye Disease (also called Thyroid Eye Disease - TED). Mind, at the very start of my thyroid journey, I was with someone at a specialist eye hospital. Mentioned TED as a possibility due to symptoms - specialist nurse said it only happened in hyperthyroidism. That morning I had been reading up on the subject and knew she was wrong...

It was a sit up and realise the depth of ignorance moment.
 

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He is separating mugs from their cash which after all is simply a case of doing a Pound shop imitation version of Nigel Farage.
Neither of them are real politicians, just parasites.
Tommy Robinson doesn’t even qualify as an imitation. He’s like one of those giant inflatable tubular men you get on second hand car lots. The ones which wave around in the breeze, desperately trying to attract attention. Instead of being kept aloft by a fan blowing air, Robinson is inflated by Nigel Farage’s farts. Pretty soon, when Farage hitches his waggon to the next fad, Robinson will just become a crumpled heap of fabric.
 
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oyster

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May I suggest the next time you buy a car, Get up from the dealers table and start to walk away.
I bet the deal gets better not worse.
Your guarantee is worth the paper it is written on.

Last time I was involved in buying a car, the dealer made an offer which we considered to be too high.

We walked away.

A short while later, dealer made another offer. Higher. (From fallible memory, I think we rang to ask if the offer was still the same in the hope of getting an improvement.)

We walked away.

We then noticed a substantial change to the "scrappage" allowance and went back. Dealer factored that in (plus a couple of other improved "inducements") and came up with an acceptable deal.

It wasn't the walking away that got a better deal, it was that the offered deal was over our self-imposed limit. Then there was a policy change completely unrelated to our walking away.
 
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Tommy Robinson doesn’t even qualify as an imitation. He’s like one of those giant inflatable tubular men you get on second hand car lots. The ones which wave around in the breeze, desperately trying to attract attention. Instead of being kept aloft by a fan blowing air, Robinson is inflated by Nigel Farage’s farts. Pretty soon, when Farage hitches his waggon to the next fad, Robinson will just become a crumpled heap of fabric.
That's one way of looking at it.
 
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50Hertz

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Who are you kidding?
He has a point. Sometimes, the dealer will improve their offer, sometimes they won't. To a great extent. it depends on who is negotiating and what they are asking for. In the case of the UK, we have complete incompetents negotiating and they don't know which make, model, colour or trim level they want. They don't even know how much is a good price. It gets worse, they may not even be at the correct dealership. What's the chance of a good deal under those circumstances? Anyone like to guess at zero?
 
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Another big element is premature babies. Keeping them alive is celebrated as a big success, but what isn't so commonly known is that they are often far from perfect and frequently suffer lifelong conditions needing medical care as a consequence of being born with incomplete organs.
Well they should be put to work in coal mines as soon as possible so that they can pay for their care, in the same way that the elderly will soon be paying more for their care too.
 

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Your guarantee is worth the paper it is written on.

Last time I was involved in buying a car, the dealer made an offer which we considered to be too high.

We walked away.

A short while later, dealer made another offer. Higher. (From fallible memory, I think we rang to ask if the offer was still the same in the hope of getting an improvement.)

We walked away.

We then noticed a substantial change to the "scrappage" allowance and went back. Dealer factored that in (plus a couple of other improved "inducements") and came up with an acceptable deal.

It wasn't the walking away that got a better deal, it was that the offered deal was over our self-imposed limit. Then there was a policy change completely unrelated to our walking away.
And then you said (plus a couple of improved "inducements") and completely ruined your
argument......LOL
 

flecc

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Well they should be put to work in coal mines as soon as possible so that they can pay for their care, in the same way that the elderly will soon be paying more for their care too.
Unfortunately the last organ to complete development in the womb is the lungs, incomplete in premature births and they rarely gain full growth afterwards. So working in a coal mine would probably ensure no need for any care, we'd just have to pay for their funeral.

in the same way that the elderly will soon be paying more for their care too.
The trend is the other way at present, despite this being proposed. Current moves are protecting their whole residential property from being forfeited to pay for care.

Actually I've already protected myself from any of that by selling the whole equity, using the cash during life. I'm still able to live in my home until 2066 at no cost, but since I wont reach 130 years old even with medical advances, that's unimportant.
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Actually I've already protected myself from any of that by selling the whole equity, using the cash during life. I'm still able to live in my home until 2066 at no cost, but since I wont reach 130 years old even with medical advances, that's unimportant.
That makes a great deal of financial sense, but for some reason I could not bring myself to do it, which is crazy. Why would I want to own a house when I'm dead? Wouldn't it be better to enjoy the cash now than to wait for some distant relative to benefit after my death?
 

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that's funny.
No deal brexit was not even on the ballot paper and yet, Farage can't bring himself to support a second referendum where no deal brexit will be on the ballot paper.
there was no option for anything other than remain or leave and leave won the vote.
 

flecc

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That makes a great deal of financial sense, but for some reason I could not bring myself to do it, which is crazy. Why would I want to own a house when I'm dead? Wouldn't it be better to enjoy the cash now than to wait for some distant relative to benefit after my death?
That is how most feel, especially if they have children to leave money to. Some say they'd feel unsafe not owning their home, and the pride of achieving owning it after some 25 years of paying monthly makes losing ownership difficult.

It's easier for me to do since I've always been opposed to inheritance, believing everyone should have the same start in life having only their own abilities.
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