Brexit, for once some facts.

[Woosh]

I use similar.. and they do help... Through what it has to do with the topic under discussion is difficult to understand.

maybe he found the thread an echo chamber for pan-European political, spellchecked and grammatical correctness, didn't like it and drops a few stink bombs to see how it goes.
I must say I was tempted to follow his links to youtube videos but decided against it.

 

[oldgroaner]

I, ve said before, who takes notice of Farage and his outpourings. Its a tiny fraction of Leavers, let alone the country.Did you see how many followed Farage's march? Think it was 47 and to be fair Farage is hardly KKK is he. He, s actually moderate but still ignored.
Exception proving rule... again.
And your blurb just confirms you,ve bought into the propoganda.Its BS designed to slander leavers.
Where are all the xenophobes? All the racists? You met any? I havent.
Even after all our area went through EDL march gathered about 20 people here, and they were mocked. Stop buying into the BS wicki.
Instead of looking for ammunition against leavers you should be examing EU. One, there is loads more wrong in there than assumed.
Two.. We are staying in it.
And BTW those posters are 3 years old now. Come on, catch up.Move on.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/16/racism-on-the-rise-across-europe-football-raheem-sterling-chelsea
Have a read through this. Rise of right is EU wide and much less significant in UK than EU as a whole. Look at the difference between UK, s racism and others. Yes, it shouldnt happen anywhere but it is hardly an issue at all in UK compared with France. (Read comments from competitors about make up of French team)

Farage is no moderate

 

[oldgroaner]

Thank you, but I have to admit that you're also clever for pointing it out.

Bull

 

[oldgroaner]

Francois, Bridgen et al cannot believe they are born. Prime time tv most nights of the week. But then the Same can be said of Soubry, Wollaston etc. And Farage is just a side show.

The difference is they will not be in the EU parliament. Let them spout their hot air. Im more concerned with the growing far right, real far right in France, Italy, Germany, Greece even Denmark.

In regard to having access to more material for a soundbite, 8 times out 10 with talking heads it’s the same clip but said again till it’s between 12 to 22 seconds long. Not usually that exciting tbh.

If you are concerned about the growth of the far right in the eu you should have voted to remain and fight it rather than watch the show helpless to do anything about it taking power.

 

[oldgroaner]

You namby-pamby-liberal-minded-Corbyn-loving-socialist-twanny-faces have NO IDEA what forces you are unleashing through stealing this from us.

Far right? Ha. We will make the 'far right' look like a bunch of pussies.

And we will utterly wipe the f****** floor with Ref-2.

Bring. It. On.

You'll need a bigger bus

 

[oldgroaner]

In case anybody is interested, 400,000 people have signed up to Tommy Robinson's new news channel, and it's only been going about a week. When he was on Facebook, he had 1.2 million followers, which was substantially more than any other political representative/activist. Like him or not, his lobby represents a mighty force in politics even though the establishment has done everything they can to silence and hide him. I watch with interest how this is going to develop.
https://www.tr.news/

There are some new platforms on the internet that focus on free speech and claim that they can remain more or less untouchable by state intervention. These could well develop into replacements for Youtube and Twitter. I don't understand how they work exactly, but they're encrypted somehow, not that you'd notice. The Video one is called Bitchute and the messaging one is called Telegram.

https://www.bitchute.com/
https://telegram.org/

Populist rabble rousers have always found plenty of gullible people even though they have no solutions to offer.
You have to ask who is using these people to stir up trouble,and why?

 

[oyster]

If you are concerned about the growth of the far right in the eu you should have voted to remain and fight it rather than watch the show helpless to do anything about it taking power.

Funnily enough, I don't remember anything about avoiding the far right in the EU being a reason for leaving in the 2016 referendum campaigns.

 

[daveboy]

Actually he has been tried in his absence, found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced to 6 years imprisonment. To that has been added a further six months for skipping bail.

I support Shephard and think he was a fool not to have stayed and appealed, though he is going to appeal now.

The manslaughter charge against him was in my view nonsensical, trumped up to find someone guilty when no-one was guilty of breaking any specific law.

As you well know, one doesn't have to have any qualification to drive a speedboat in the UK, nor is there any such qualification. Anyone can take the helm and do it legally.

Shephard let the girl he was with take the helm for a while which is of course entirely legal. She drove it at speed into a bridge pier, overturning it, killing herself and endangering his life.

One might well say he was irresponsible, but he did nothing illegal and since there is no recognised qualification, she was as fitted to drive it as he was. Her death was accidental at her own hands.

Completely irrelevant evidence was given in the court case to try to blacken Shephard in the jury's eyes, such as emphasis on how fast he'd been driving the boat before, but that of course wasn't pertinent to the accident since he wasn't driving the boat at the time.
.

It was reported that the CPS didn't want to charge anybody but the girls father (who is high up in the home office) pushed and pushed for it. Her father is high up in the prison
service and allegedly told shepherd he would make sure any time in prison would be
made as hard as possible for him.
No wonder he did a bunk.
The CPS denied this.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/cps-refutes-speedboat-killers-claim-that-victims-father-forced-charges-37746190.html

 

[oyster]

Instead of standing, and I can't believe he really intends to be an active MEP for the next five years, shout from the rooftops how wrong his son is. Though 'tis good that he and his daughter agree on direction.

Stanley Johnson, the father of Boris Johnson and a former Tory MEP, has announced his wish to stand again for the party to make a pro-European case.

 

[Danidl]

Populist rabble rousers have always found plenty of gullible people even though they have no solutions to offer.
You have to ask who is using these people to stir up trouble,and why?

We would have called them noticeboxes in primary school,and they don't change. What distinguishes Mr Farage, is that he is a witty orator,with a more pleasant voice than most

 

[oyster]

Her father is high up in the prison
service and allegedly told shepherd he would make sure any time in prison would be
made as hard as possible for him.

I'd class that as some sort of misuse of public office. Should Shepherd go to gaol, he should not be in a position of being singled out due to that father's position.

 

[oyster]

That tr news site says that you can opt out of cookies.

But leaves a cookie in my browser - and following the privacy information does not provide an option to opt out.

I don't like sites that do that.

 

[Danidl]

I'd class that as some sort of misuse of public office. Should Shepherd go to gaol, he should not be in a position of being singled out due to that father's position.

It is also conflict of interest, and threatening behaviour, if substantiated, the father in question should be put on compassionate leave, and perhaps seconded to another department. One could sympathise with him,on a personal level, but when it interferes with the conduct of their official function,that tolerance must cease.

 

[Woosh]

That tr news site says that you can opt out of cookies.

But leaves a cookie in my browser - and following the privacy information does not provide an option to opt out.

I don't like sites that do that.

what does the tr in tr news stand for? Tommy Robinson? Today's Russia?

 

[oldgroaner]

what does the tr in tr news stand for? Tommy Robinson? Today's Russia?

A Google search yielded this
"
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known as Tommy Robinson, is a British far-right activist serving as a political adviser to the Leader of the UK Independence Party, Gerard Batten since November 2018. Robinson is a co-founder, former spokesman and former leader of the English Defence League organisation. Wikipedia

Born: 27 November 1982 (age 36 years), Luton

Full name: Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon
Height: 1.7 m
Other name: Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris, Wayne King

He is the very embodiment of the rabble rouser that Brexit has brought out from under it's stone, and will be someone making matters worse after Brexit, exactly as we predicted on here from day one

 

[oldgroaner]

From Twitter. Lord Nigel speaks
""We are lions led by donkeys" At the launch of his new Brexit Party, former UKIP leader Nigel Farage says politicians are taking the country on a path to "managed decline"
Well it was a good try lets see now

"They are lions he wishes to be led not by Donkeys but by a Jackass" At the launch of his new Brexit Party, former UKIP leader Nigel Farage says politicians including himself are taking the country on a path to "mismanaged decline"

Nearer the truth

 

[oyster]

what does the tr in tr news stand for? Tommy Robinson? Today's Russia?

Most often, it stands for Turkey. Isn't that where Boris' family hails from?

 

[Wicky]

maybe he found the thread an echo chamber for pan-European political, spellchecked and grammatical correctness, didn't like it and drops a few stink bombs to see how it goes.
I must say I was tempted to follow his links to youtube videos but decided against it.

There's in the population roughly about 5% that are hardcore conspiracy theorists - so not surprised to find one here. On another forum I frequent it was plagued by a chap who eventually found fame for a while after he had a word named after him. In the end the forum mods after giving him many warnings eventually made him a special subcategory subforum, and to this day he rattles away to himself confined to his very own digital attic.

Kettlerian

Relating to or evocative of, the random conspiracy theories of John Kettler, a contributor to various UFO and Atlantis fan magazines. In every mundane military story, there is a alien tesla particle weapon, and in every political expose, there is a reptiloid alien shape shifter infiltration, in every WWII epic, there lurk Nazi UFOs.

My internet buddy Fred came up with a Kettlerian conspiracy that former US president Bill Clinton was really a reptile shape-shifter, assuming human form to rule the world.

The phrase Kettlerian refers to, among other things, drawing unsupportable conclusions from tenuous connections and flimsy or non-existant linkages.)

 

[vfr400]

A Google search yielded this
"
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known as Tommy Robinson, is a British far-right activist serving as a political adviser to the Leader of the UK Independence Party, Gerard Batten since November 2018. Robinson is a co-founder, former spokesman and former leader of the English Defence League organisation. Wikipedia

Born: 27 November 1982 (age 36 years), Luton

Full name: Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon
Height: 1.7 m
Other name: Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris, Wayne King

He is the very embodiment of the rabble rouser that Brexit has brought out from under it's stone, and will be someone making matters worse after Brexit, exactly as we predicted on here from day one

It gets more interesting. Last night on The Pledge on Sky News Maajid Nawaz said that Tommy Robinson will probably stand in the election, and what's more, he said that he'll probably win a seat due to the election system. None of the rest of the panel disagreed with him.

If this happens, it'll be the biggest shitfest our politics has ever seen. It needs something like this to shake it up. Out of the chaos, we should get a new order.

BTW, do not believe anything you read or see in the media about TR. If you want to know who he is and what he stands for, watch this. I personally think it's very important because it gives you a very good understanding of how the media manipulate facts and fiction to give you a false impression of the truth, which, of course, is happening with Brexit and other things too.

 

[OxygenJames]