Brexit, for once some facts.

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Exception proving the rule.?
Would you let a doctor with similar level of education operate on you?
Yes, we all know education doesn't bestow wisdom or experience but it shows a person is capable of learning,Corbyn has proved an inability to do exactly that both with his lack of education and his poor decisions.
He has kept Labour out of power for 2 years now, time to move on. Corbyn, Abbott and McDonel should all go.
Would anybody in here employ any of those 3 as their solicitor, financial adviser, Estate Agent, Lawyer, Dentist or Doctor.. Nope nobody would but some see them fit to run country. How strange???
Can you imagine walking into Lawyers office to be met by Corbyn or Abbott. How long would conversation need to be before you ran away.
Liam Fox is a Doctor, which rather urinates on your bonfire
Would you employ him leading the assault on World Trade?
 
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In the Telegraph
That well known Mystic make a profound statement
"Chris Grayling interview‘Customs union after Brexit means ceding power to Lithuania’

Never saw that calamity coming did 'yah?
And also he gave this grave warning
"Tories need 'experience' at the helm, says Grayling in blow to Raab"
Of course that is if you can find a ship, or the possibility of one that is;)
The Conservative Party must appoint a senior Tory Eurosceptic to lead it through the next phase of the Brexit negotiations and delay a full scale leadership contest until after the 2022 election, a Cabinet minister has said.

So just what form of "ignore the rules and do whatever we want" does Grayling propose to take? What non-full-scale leadership contest does he mean? OO (as in Hornby)?
 
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that article contains one good line, although the line did not come from Grayling but from Tony Blair:

“I have absolutely no doubt that if you have Right-wing populism against Left-wing populism in this country, the Right-wing will win.”

That explains why we are where we are today.
Hmm, but, as far as i can see the right wing is losing. Without the help of the likes of grayling and may (crucial as it is). Because outside an isolationist runaway capitalist enclave like trump usa or 3d world autocracy rightwing populist policies dont work
 
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So just what form of "ignore the rules and do whatever we want" does Grayling propose to take?
that's how MPs operate.
160 tory MPs voted for no deal, 170 signed the letter 'just leave' out of 330 MPs.
the math is not in favour of TM's deal.
 
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that article contains one good line, although the line did not come from Grayling but from Tony Blair:

“I have absolutely no doubt that if you have Right-wing populism against Left-wing populism in this country, the Right-wing will win.”

That explains why we are where we are today.

It’s interesting that Failing has been on the radio/media more in the last 3 days than in the last 3 years. This is where May is. This is her level of NCO.
 

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I have decided to change my vote to remain and spend my life savings, just over £2300, in a donation to Gina Millers recouping of the money she spent on fighting Brexit.

I believe I made a mistake and was wrong.
 
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I have decided to change my vote to remain and spend my life savings, just over £2300, in a donation to Gina Millers recouping of the money she spent on fighting Brexit.

I believe I made a mistake and was wrong.
WTF have you been smoking?

OK you have made the right decision, how about being more polite while you are on a run?
 
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Corbyn's lack of qualifications is only a minor flaw for him. If he had 5 degrees, a PHD and a Black belt he, d still be a poor leader and Abbott an even worse Home Secretary.
His poor academic record is just one of many indicators showing his potential. Potential to serioysly damage UK, look what's happened to Labour Party on his watch. Listen to him in interviews and in PM QT... He, s not very good.
Fair point re nationalisation but I, d sooner a good politician have the insight to adopt those policies.
But we might get chance to see, but I, m afraid many more see Corbyn as seriously flawed than PM material. Labour would do better without him.
Lisa Nandy would make a much better leader. At least she can talk common sense and appears to be willing to listen. Unlike old cloth ears Corbyn. He just has tunnel vision
 
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that article contains one good line, although the line did not come from Grayling but from Tony Blair:

“I have absolutely no doubt that if you have Right-wing populism against Left-wing populism in this country, the Right-wing will win.”

That explains why we are where we are today.
we don't want a communist government. They don't work and you still get rich and poor. At least over here we don't have special lanes in the road for out leaders
 
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Lisa Nandy would make a much better leader. At least she can talk common sense and appears to be willing to listen. Unlike old cloth ears Corbyn. He just has tunnel vision

I've always liked Rachel Reeves. And Liz on This Week.

But they are Blairites
 

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we don't want a communist government. They don't work and you still get rich and poor. At least over here we don't have special lanes in the road for out leaders
How would we know, there has never been a communist government, anywhere, ever...

Maybe they do work? But I can't see a country with so few egoists that it might work... Maybe in Scandinavia they could have a go.
 
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How would we know, there has never been a communist government, anywhere, ever...

Maybe they do work? But I can't see a country with so few egoists that it might work... Maybe in Scandinavia they could have a go.
Sweden is already quite close to being truly Communist, their public like it and they are very high in the national happiness ratings.
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