Brexit, for once some facts.

jonathan.agnew

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how do you know that
Specifically from having a child with allergy. But i think you mean,metaphorically,how do i know may or boris or gove etc wont suddenly transform ino a champion of the people? History is one answer. Another is a westminster system that makes for a slash and burn cycle every four years. I dont even trust corbyn.
 

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how do you know that
My guess is because they show very little benevolence or care in any other areas of governance. If there is a cheap and nasty way to make a quick killing, that usually satisfies the criteria of acceptability.

The European Consumer Rights Directive is a great piece of legislation and very good for us the public. I couldn't imagine Johnson, May, Mogg or Gove having ever unilaterally decided to introduce something like that to the UK. Doesn't really fit in with the quick quid Spiv culture.
 

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you are frightened of leaving the EU but feel confident that Corbyn could run the country. Words fail me. This is a man who wants us to be like Venezuela, and I am pretty sure if he got into power we soon would. We probably won't know how bad it is after Mcdonnell has ''reeducated'' all civil servants .
be prepared for JC to be PM.
it is very likely that parliament will vote for customs union (Clarke's amendment) and confirmatory vote (Kyle Wilson's) on Monday. TM will be presented with the choice: accept one of the two and have Labour front bench + DUP voting for her MV4 or go for no deal. If she chooses no deal, parliament will most likely vote to revoke A50. TM will then call for GE and JC will be PM.
 

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I do trust that he wouldn't make the disastrous mistake Blair did with the Iraq war. Most of the "emergencies" are nothing of the sort and don't require any military action. It's only a certain right wing mentality that sees war as any sort of solution.
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Did you watch him when he was talking about the Skripal case he could not bring himself to say anything about Russian involvement. Many Labour MPs were pulling their hair out over his performance over that case. He is not a leader and while he is in charge I would be amazed if Labour win the next GE. If they replaced him with a card board cut out they would probably be 25 points ahead in the polls by now.
 
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Regulation (eu) 1169/2011. It forces food companies to label content of food on packaging. Very domestic,i know. But if you have a child with diabetes or allergy,life saving. Our corrupt conniving goverment would never have achieved this level of conumer protection. Its not that their incapable,more utterly sel serving. If brexit hasnt made that clear i dont think anything will
And we still don't know when it comes to alcoholic drinks.
 
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TM will then call for GE and JC will be PM.
Don't two thirds of MPs need to agree to a GE before it can be called? That means a lot of Tori MPs will need to back a GE, that strikes me as needing Turkeys to vote for Christmas. I would be very surprised if they would do that, having said that nothing surprises me nowadays when it comes to politics.
 
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Don't two thirds of MPs need to agree to a GE before it can be called? That means a lot of Tori MPs will need to back a GE, that strikes me as needing Turkeys to vote for Christmas. I would be very surprised if they would do that, having said that nothing surprises me nowadays when it comes to politics.
Or a vote of no confidence in the government,

(Ironically the current government put repeal of the fixed term parliaments act into their manifesto.)
 
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be prepared for JC to be PM.
it is very likely that parliament will vote for customs union (Clarke's amendment) and confirmatory vote (Kyle Wilson's) on Monday. TM will be presented with the choice: accept one of the two and have Labour front bench + DUP voting for her MV4 or go for no deal. If she chooses no deal, parliament will most likely vote to revoke A50. TM will then call for GE and JC will be PM.
Only if he wins Woosh, just a tad jumping to conclusions. You, ve seen on here general feeling he is not capable,but that might make him eminently suitable.
 

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be prepared for JC to be PM.
it is very likely that parliament will vote for customs union (Clarke's amendment) and confirmatory vote (Kyle Wilson's) on Monday. TM will be presented with the choice: accept one of the two and have Labour front bench + DUP voting for her MV4 or go for no deal. If she chooses no deal, parliament will most likely vote to revoke A50. TM will then call for GE and JC will be PM.
I don't think the british people will vote him in. However he may get in by default because people are so fed up they may not bother to turn out to vote for the tories. To worry about the'' catastrophic'' consequences of brexit and then to not worry about Corbyn becoming PM seems like lunacy to me. He would destroy the country within 2 years
 

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be prepared for JC to be PM.
it is very likely that parliament will vote for customs union (Clarke's amendment) and confirmatory vote (Kyle Wilson's) on Monday. TM will be presented with the choice: accept one of the two and have Labour front bench + DUP voting for her MV4 or go for no deal. If she chooses no deal, parliament will most likely vote to revoke A50. TM will then call for GE and JC will be PM.
She will choose no deal rather than accept a solution from anywhere other than inside her own stupid head. That course of action would also fit perfectly and be consistent with her poor judgement.
 
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Don't two thirds of MPs need to agree to a GE before it can be called? That means a lot of Tori MPs will need to back a GE, that strikes me as needing Turkeys to vote for Christmas. I would be very surprised if they would do that, having said that nothing surprises me nowadays when it comes to politics.
The majority are so scared of No Deal that they'd probably rather risk a GE than have us crash out.
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She will choose no deal rather than accept a solution from anywhere other than inside her own stupid head. That course of action would also fit perfectly and be consistent with her poor judgement.
And it will suit many of the MPs who voted against her deal, even the Labour ones.
I still think no deal is most likely outcome.
 

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If Corbyn got in with a Majority, it could be the equivalent of a hung parliament
because so many of his own MP's would vote against him on anything radical
and that might not necessarily be a bad thing.
Think you could be right but this mess is a consequence of weak majority, MPs not following either PM's wishes or manifesto. That will be same who ever gets in next time. Problem will be reading next manifesto from both Labour and Tory will be pointless.
 
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If Corbyn got in with a Majority, it could be the equivalent of a hung parliament
because so many of his own MP's would vote against him on anything radical
and that might not necessarily be a bad thing.
The most radical thing he wants to do is put Rail and Water back in state ownership, and his MPs support him in that.

I can't understand why so many in here have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the right wing media into thinking Corbyn is a bogeyman. In truth he's no different from the left wingers in Attlees government, and they only did good which we all still benefit from.
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The most radical thing he wants to do is put Rail and Water back in state ownership, and his MPs support him in that.

I can't understand why so many in here have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the right wing media into thinking Corbhyn is a bogeyman. In truth he's no different from the left wingers in Attlees government, and they only did good which we all still benefit from.
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Thats rubbish Flecc.
Attlee was without doubt a socialist but he was both pragmatic and realistic. He instigated our nuclear arms programme and having done so left nobody in anydoubt he would use it if absolutely required. Corbyn tries to please both sides, says he will fund Trident replacement, keep nuclear arms but..... never ever use them. He sits on fence with everyhing. He, s a fool and country have seen through his act and nothing to do with right wing press.
I cant think of a single decision he has made, apart from sacking Ms Champion for calling for dialogue to be opened regarding problems in Rotherham. Very strange for a man willing to speak to any and all terrorist groups.
Attlee was a leading statesman of his generation, very intelligent and respected by all. Corbyn is none of those. You do Atllee a diservice by making the comparison.
 
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OxygenJames

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The most radical thing he wants to do is put Rail and Water back in state ownership, and his MPs support him in that.

I can't understand why so many in here have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the right wing media into thinking Corbyn is a bogeyman. In truth he's no different from the left wingers in Attlees government, and they only did good which we all still benefit from.
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Nothing to do with the 'right wing press' - just look at the man - watch him on PMQs - look at who he's been hanging out with - two Es at A level - the man is a walking disaster.
 

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