Brexit, for once some facts.

[Wicky]

Ah I downloaded the raw data (Json) and the stupid journalist has either mistaken or spread disinfo how many people have signed in JRM's constituency as them signing themselves

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584.json

"mp":"Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg MP","signature_count":9759}

Where does ™ find the time in her busy schedule

"mp":"Rt Hon Theresa May MP","signature_count":12096}

Couldn't find any UK MP named 'Idi Amin' so looks very much like Telegraph journalist is telling porkies to gullible folk.

 

[oldgroaner]

Do you need spoon-fed??

Check the Raw Data for yourself, it`s all in there.

Except that it isn't, obviously you don't understand what you were looking at, but hey, that's not new is it?
And there is some good news ! your Petition
"leave the EU without a deal in march, "
got six more signatures overnight in Armagh, bringing the grand total to 290 that's a scorching Zero point two five percent of the electorate (0.25%)

Enthusiasm for Brexit without a deal must be running at an all time Fever Pitch high over there.
Have you signed it yet?
Here's a good tip, get your leave mates to chuck in a few thousand Idi Amin signatures, with fake email adresses, after all, you have assured us that they specialise in dishonesty where voting is involved.

 

[oldgroaner]

Ah I downloaded the raw data (Json) and the stupid journalist has either mistaken or spread disinfo how many people have signed in JRM's constituency as them signing themselves

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584.json

"mp":"Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg MP","signature_count":9759}

Where does ™ find the time in her busy schedule

"mp":"Rt Hon Theresa May MP","signature_count":12096}

Couldn't find any UK MP named 'Idi Amin' so looks very much like Telegraph journalist is telling porkies to gullible folk.

Oh that's a pity! I just advised Tommie to get his leave pals to bung in a few thousand fake signatures into the "Leave without a deal in March" petition.
Sorry Tommie!

 

[Wicky]

remainers on this thread have been complaining about the leave campaign not being honest and now you expect an unverified petition to be accepted as truthful. Who knows who has voted in this petition, and how many times they have voted. It's a pile of rubbish and should be ignored

Does that apply also to this petition - if so then I expect you'll soon be writing to your MP to ask him to ignore these petitions.

Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019. 542,551 signatures > https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

Raw data https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963.json

Parliament debated this topic
This topic was debated on 14 January 2019

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-01-14/debates/694BA27D-566E-4F52-BC4B-8FC1ACA3F109/LeavingTheEU

 

[tommie]

I am assuming that it is counting the days since the total number of votes reached the minimum threshold for consideration eg. 10k and 100k
At the current rate the petition will be at 6 million by tonight.

I note this from the EU...

Brussels says it is "increasingly likely" that we'll leave without a deal on April 12, confirming they have concluded their no-deal preparation.

`concluded their preparations`??!! And where would that be? Certainly not at the Border , you know the one that was supposed to be a massive problem. No infrastructure, permanent or portable, no barriers, no customs, guards, police.....NOTHING!!

Or was it just one big con by the EU??
https://capx.co/the-backstop-is-built-on-a-colossal-delusion/

 

[oldgroaner]

Again?

It seems every single debate from PMQs to urgent questions has this very question asked at least two times per session.

How many times and ways can you tell a person. Or 5 million people no before they understand?

They understand the first time is the answer to that, and know the Government is set on pushing through the illegally acquired Brexit result or their offshore accounts are in danger.
Simple enough for even you to understand.

 

[gray198]

Does that apply also to this petition - if so then I expect you'll soon be writing to your MP to ask him to ignore these petitions.

Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019. 542,551 signatures > https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

Raw data https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963.json

Parliament debated this topic
This topic was debated on 14 January 2019

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-01-14/debates/694BA27D-566E-4F52-BC4B-8FC1ACA3F109/LeavingTheEU

it applies to all petitions

 

[flecc]

Or was it just one big con by the EU??
https://capx.co/the-backstop-is-built-on-a-colossal-delusion/

That article is delusional. No-one is saying there ever was a hard border. What is being said is the unavoidable fact that having Northern Ireland outside the EU and the Republic of Ireland in the EU creates a de facto economic hard border.
.

 

[oldgroaner]

remainers on this thread have been complaining about the leave campaign not being honest and now you expect an unverified petition to be accepted as truthful. Who knows who has voted in this petition, and how many times they have voted. It's a pile of rubbish and should be ignored

On your say so? are you actually trying to say the leave campaign has not resorted to dishonesty?
You are jesting?
And by the way if you kept in touch with what is going on the Government have claimed that they do indeed verify the results and reject any fakes.

 

[oldgroaner]

To clear up the old trope that when we entered the EEC we didn't know that it would develop into what it has I offer this proof that if people didn't, it was because they either didn't read the press, or have memory loss

And this too

Inconvenient Facts aren't they? you knew what you were voting for before the Referendum about staying in membership

 

[oldgroaner]

I note this from the EU...

Brussels says it is "increasingly likely" that we'll leave without a deal on April 12, confirming they have concluded their no-deal preparation.

`concluded their preparations`??!! And where would that be? Certainly not at the Border , you know the one that was supposed to be a massive problem. No infrastructure, permanent or portable, no barriers, no customs, guards, police.....NOTHING!!

Or was it just one big con by the EU??
https://capx.co/the-backstop-is-built-on-a-colossal-delusion/

Tommie,what are you trying to prove? this link is absolute nonsense, you clearly are not privy to what the EU intend to do any more than anyone else is, so why are you adopting this silly stance?
Wait and see what they propose

 

[Danidl]

remainers on this thread have been complaining about the leave campaign not being honest and now you expect an unverified petition to be accepted as truthful. Who knows who has voted in this petition, and how many times they have voted. It's a pile of rubbish and should be ignored

..see my later posting re the petition...

 

[Wicky]

it applies to all petitions

You've never ever signed a petition?

If so that's your choice to abstain.

 

[Danidl]

I note this from the EU...

Brussels says it is "increasingly likely" that we'll leave without a deal on April 12, confirming they have concluded their no-deal preparation.

`concluded their preparations`??!! And where would that be? Certainly not at the Border , you know the one that was supposed to be a massive problem. No infrastructure, permanent or portable, no barriers, no customs, guards, police.....NOTHING!!

Or was it just one big con by the EU??
https://capx.co/the-backstop-is-built-on-a-colossal-delusion/

Duh! Have you read what the UKs HMRC DECISION for dealing with NI and RoI is in the event of a crashout? . It rightly has Ulster Farmers in a tizzy. Basically it is the simple East West border. We can live with that as an interim measure. .. We dont want to but we can live with it,as we have no choice.

 

[Danidl]

Tommie,what are you trying to prove? this link is absolute nonsense, you clearly are not privy to what the EU intend to do any more than anyone else is, so why are you adopting this silly stance?
Wait and see what they propose

Actually I must concur with Tommie on this point. Unless there is some real movement in Westminster, the 12th April is as real as it gets. Listen to the EU Council comments. Mrs Merkel can only stall that decision for so long. Unless the UK gives her a good argument , the 12 is the day.

 

[oldgroaner]

Where's Jeremy?
24,998 have now signed the Petition to cancel Brexit that's 22.87%

 

[oldgroaner]

Actually I must concur with Tommie on this point. Unless there is some real movement in Westminster, the 12th April is as real as it gets. Listen to the EU Council comments. Mrs Merkel can only stall that decision for so long. Unless the UK gives her a good argument , the 12 is the day.

I wasn't disputing the date, but the fact that we don't know what their intended preparations are.

 

[daveboy]

The D U P have said "nothing has changed" May's deal might not even be put
to the house again.

 

[Danidl]

Ah I downloaded the raw data (Json) and the stupid journalist has either mistaken or spread disinfo how many people have signed in JRM's constituency as them signing themselves

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584.json

"mp":"Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg MP","signature_count":9759}

Where does ™ find the time in her busy schedule

"mp":"Rt Hon Theresa May MP","signature_count":12096}

Couldn't find any UK MP named 'Idi Amin' so looks very much like Telegraph journalist is telling porkies to gullible folk.

Can people not properly read this CSV data? . It is not stating that someone signed in as JR M 9759 times. It is stating that in the area codes identified as being in the constituency of JRM that the system recorded 9759 votes..

 

[tommie]

Duh! Have you read what the UKs HMRC DECISION for dealing with NI and RoI is in the event of a crashout? . It rightly has Ulster Farmers in a tizzy. Basically it is the simple East West border. We can live with that as an interim measure. .. We dont want to but we can live with it,as we have no choice.

I`ll ask the same question again in light of the latest EU statement - What`s happening at the Border then ?? What preparations have been made there?? Or will we just settle for a free for all?

"The European Commission has today confirmed it has “completed its no-deal preparations”.
In a press release from the EU’s executive body this morning, Brussels declares “it is increasingly likely that the United Kingdom will leave without a deal on 12 April”.