Brexit, for once some facts.

50Hertz

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Perhaps another kiwi trait. From the bloke who never insults anyone?
I’m not sure what he was getting at. I think it was because I said hundreds of pounds of free money for about two hours work. Of course if I had to do work to get the money, it couldn’t have been free. I suppose it would have been more accurate to say .......... sorry, I’ve lost the will to live.
 

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I’m not sure what he was getting at. I think it was because I said hundreds of pounds of free money for about two hours work. Of course if I had to do work to get the money, it couldn’t have been free. I suppose it would have been more accurate to say .......... sorry, I’ve lost the will to live.
Flecc says he did same thing, or similar, so I, m not sure either.
I cant see how anyone can criticise individuals for taking advantage of schemes, accounts etc etc. Its common sense.
In 80,s I started my business by mortgaging house, investing 40% of capital in bonds to pay mortgage and used remainder as start up. Worked fine, to lose house both business and bonds would have had to fail.(gave me more security) As it turned out both worked and as a bonus over the 12 years bonds were paying mortgage house value increased about 125%...I did absolutely zilch with either the bonds or house price increase. (apart from decorate, the house that is)
OG will find fault in all that but its how world works. Its called capitalism and we are all free to have a go, trouble is those unwilling to take risk will criticise those who do.
And before OG comes back to remind me my business served no social purpose apart from relieving wealthy of a few quid, it has kept the equivalent of 10 people in work since 1986 and paid more tax than Google ever did.And up to a few years ago I was also employed, so the business wasnt that demanding of my time.
And, if no one took these risks and tried to make money nobody would be in work and we would all be poor as church mice.
Armitage Shanks only operates to make a profit. Its not some social benevolence scheme.
 
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I’m not entirely sure what you mean AK.
Was that an insult? He is basically calling you a liar.

Tut tut AK.

Just started snowing in London. I’m a bit peeved by this as I didn’t cycle in today, I was told the snow would come at 1700. Although the BBC has paid me money today for services rendered it’s also cost me money by shoddy weather predictions.

Is this a Brexit and should I sue?
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50Hertz

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Flecc says he did same thing, or similar, so I, m not sure either.
I cant see how anyone can criticise individuals for taking advantage of schemes, accounts etc etc. Its common sense.
In 80,s I started my business by mortgaging house, investing 40% of capital in bonds to pay mortgage and used remainder as start up. Worked fine, to lose house business and bonds would have had to fail. As it turned out both worked and as a bonus over the 12 years bonds were paying mortgage house value increased about 125%...I did absolutely zilch with either the bonds or house price increase. (apart from decorate, the house that is)
OG will find fault in all that but its how world works. Its called capitalism and we are all free to have a go, trouble is those unwilling to take risk will criticise those who do.
And before OG comes back to remind me ny business served no social purpose apart from relieving wealthy of a few quid, it has kept the equivalent of 10 people in work since 1986 and paid more tax than Google ever did.And up to a few years ago I was also employed, so the business wasnt that demanding of my time.
Yes, I’m sure it was called Stoozing, dead easy to do and virtually no risk involved. Borrow at 0% and invest the money at 5 to 6%. It sounds crazy when you stop and think about it.

People sometimes forget the risks involved with investments. You could have lost everything, but fortunately it worked out for you. It’s a case of looking carefully at what is right for you. If people want a safe 1.5% return, they should leave their cash in the bank and not criticise the people who are comfortable with more exposure to risk in exchange for a better return.
 

50Hertz

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Oh dear. That’s probably not far off reality and reflects my thoughts. I considered Corbyn to be a fairly principled and honest man about 18 months ago. I didn’t agree with much of what he said, but I admired him for sticking by his principles in the face of bullying by the likes of the Daily Fail. His performance in recent months has let him down. He now comes across as angling for power at the expense of sacrificing his principles and what’s best for the country.
 
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Flecc says he did same thing, or similar, so I, m not sure either.
I cant see how anyone can criticise individuals for taking advantage of schemes, accounts etc etc. Its common sense.
In 80,s I started my business by mortgaging house, investing 40% of capital in bonds to pay mortgage and used remainder as start up. Worked fine, to lose house both business and bonds would have had to fail.(gave me more security) As it turned out both worked and as a bonus over the 12 years bonds were paying mortgage house value increased about 125%...I did absolutely zilch with either the bonds or house price increase. (apart from decorate, the house that is)
OG will find fault in all that but its how world works. Its called capitalism and we are all free to have a go, trouble is those unwilling to take risk will criticise those who do.
And before OG comes back to remind me my business served no social purpose apart from relieving wealthy of a few quid, it has kept the equivalent of 10 people in work since 1986 and paid more tax than Google ever did.And up to a few years ago I was also employed, so the business wasnt that demanding of my time.
And, if no one took these risks and tried to make money nobody would be in work and we would all be poor as church mice.
Armitage Shanks only operates to make a profit. Its not some social benevolence scheme.
Where does what you did equate with Capialism?
"Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit."

What means of production did you operate for a profit?
You flatter yourself on the basis of a couple of small time deals that you are a capitalist?
Oh! very droll
Hang on a minute the last time you said you were a socialist
 
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Where does what you did equate with Capialism?
"Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit."

What means of production did you operate for a profit?
You flatter yourself on the basis of a couple of small time deals that you are a capitalist?
Oh! very droll!

What do you do for cash these days groaner?
 

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Where does what you did equate with Capitalism?
it may be with a small c.
did some company give away free air tickets with their vacuum cleaners or something similar in the past?
I must say I am not impressed with businesses peddling easy credit such Northern Rock and their 110% mortgage, wonga wonga etc.
 
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Lord Adonis on Newsnight gave this example of changes after brexit:
until now, credit card interest rate is capped by the EU.
After brexit, it may not be capped or capped to a different level.
 
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50Hertz

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Now those "Know nothing Experts" the Institute of Directors are sounding warning bells in the Guardian
One in three UK firms plan for no-deal Brexit relocation, IoD says
Survey finds surge of smaller companies activating plans to move operations abroad
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/01/one-three-uk-firms-activate-plans-move-operations-abroad-no-deal-brexit-iod-survey

Here’s the clue, “In the Guardian”.

That newspaper is like an anti-venom to the daily mail, both being toxic and dangerous if consumed on their own.

As I’ve said before though, I personally think a hard no deal Brexit, which many seem to want, risks jobs.
 
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From the Independent
Brexit: If another referendum reverses EU vote ‘there will be blood on the streets’

The White Cliffs of Dover are a symbol of Britain’s ‘finest hour’ but, as Patrick Cockburn finds, the port town is now also an emblem of the country

By what logic does one past vote negate the future right of the same group of voters to change their minds, justify some idiot claiming "there will be blood in in the streets"?
 
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