Brexit, for once some facts.

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@oldgroaner

remember when you said our government was worse than Zimbabwe?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/16/authorities-launch-major-crackdown-amid-protests-zimbabwe

Almost as bad as when you thought there were a million different viewers on here tuning in for your advice every day.

 

[flecc]

remember when you said our government was worse than Zimbabwe?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/16/authorities-launch-major-crackdown-amid-protests-zimbabwe

Extract: "They tried to make me buy a single mango for $15,” said one Harare resident."

It's £7 for a single courgette in British Falklands islands!

Yes really!

And we're pretty adept at riots and burnings too:

 

[oldgroaner]

Not funny has nothing to do with being a Leaver...... have you seen the man?!^%!$@^%!$?????

Do you really want that shambles to represent this country?!

Seriously?

How anybody could think of such a thing is utterly beyond me.

As apparently is any rational thinking
But someone must have wanted "This Shambles to represent this country" for how else did the Conservatives scrape through at the last GE?
No one has EVER run a more shambolic regime than they are doing, as last nights vote proved!

 

[Fingers]

Extract: "They tried to make me buy a single mango for $15,” said one Harare resident."

It's £7 for a single courgette in British Falklands islands!

Yes really!

And we're pretty adept at riots and burnings too:

You agree with groaner as well then?

Or maybe they are on a par?

 

[oldgroaner]

The vote turned out as expected, TM tried offering an olive Branch, Corbyn tossed it back.
This isn't going to end well, is it?

 

[flecc]

You agree with groaner as well then?

Or maybe they are on a par?

Not really, just illustrating that some things used as propaganda are far from clear cut.

Journalists and politicians too often forget the old adage, People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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[Danidl]

A second referendum will take seven months if it was called tomorrow.

I just can’t see it happening. There is no way the Tories will call one and there is no way Corbyn can win an election even if it was on the back of a second referendum.

So at best the timetable would be May resigning late March as a no deal looms, she won’t call a second referendum so calls an election. That would be held say June 1st. Second referendum called that day (if by a miracle Corbyn can win) so referendum would be at the earliest Jan 1st 2020.

What would the question be?

What if the turnout was significantly lower?

What if it’s close?

What if remain win?

What if leave win?

Then another 2 years of article 50. No deal so we start again. It’s utter madness. Or remain win and the call for a third referendum is deafening with increasing civil disobedience.

We need to leave and respect the referendum. Anything else will create a mess far bigger than leaving the bloody EU. They are playing us for fools and we are biting.

But Mays Deal actually respected the Referendum. That is the problem.The path you are now on neither respects the Referendum,the 16 million and the significant fraction of the 17 million who wanted a soft Brexit, and access to much of the single market. Yes it is a mess and a shambles

 

[50Hertz]

The vote turned out as expected, TM tried offering an olive Branch, Corbyn tossed it back.
This isn't going to end well, is it?

Corbyn is no better the rest of them. He has no interest what is best for the country. He is playing a cynical game, manoeuvring for an opportunist shot at PM. He wants the Conservative party to take us out of the EU, then he can swoop and turn the country into a Socialist’s Theme Park for his convicts, drug dealers and multi-millionaire MPs to play with. Anyone who is currently in employment & has saved a bit of money is completely fcukde, Corbyn will nick it to stock his free money shops.

 

[oldgroaner]

I see Facebook is failing on Brexit ads again, and the same old leave campaign is trying to hide behind various false addresses to avoid getting into further legal bother
https://medium.com/@jamesmb/facebook-is-failing-on-brexit-ads-again-da2644279607
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Facebook is failing on Brexit Ads — Again

Just who is behind the mysterious Better Brexit?

Right wing vermin are clearly hard to get rid of, close off one address and they pop out of another trying to subvert the voters.
Which dodgy outfit has replaced Cambridge Analytica, or are they still using the same name?
After all the Government have turned a blind eye to the corruption around the referendum, haven't they?

 

[flecc]

Corbyn is no better the rest of them. He wants the Conservative party to take us out of the EU, then he can swoop and turn the country into a Socialist’s Theme Park for his convicts, drug dealers and multi-millionaire MPs to play with.

If he puts that in his manifesto, the Queens speech to open parliament will be fun.
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[oldgroaner]

But Mays Deal actually respected the Referendum. That is the problem.The path you are now on neither respects the Referendum,the 16 million and the significant fraction of the 17 million who wanted a soft Brexit, and access to much of the single market. Yes it is a mess and a shambles

How can you respect an illegally subverted referendum?
That is dealing in Stolen Goods, and ignoring the rule of law for political expediency.
It should be annulled and run again.

 

[50Hertz]

I’m just watching two women fighting on BBC’s Politics Live. It’s like watching cats scrapping over the content of a dustbin.

Why are we in this position now? What the hell has been going off since June 2016?

 

[oldgroaner]

Corbyn is no better the rest of them. He has no interest what is best for the country. He is playing a cynical game, manoeuvring for an opportunist shot at PM. He wants the Conservative party to take us out of the EU, then he can swoop and turn the country into a Socialist’s Theme Park for his convicts, drug dealers and multi-millionaire MPs to play with. Anyone who is currently in employment & has saved a bit of money is completely fcukde, Corbyn will nick it to stock his free money shops.

You are showing signs of losing the plot completely, do send back to HQ for better tropes than this rather than sound irrational.
"a Socialist’s Theme Park for his convicts, drug dealers and multi-millionaire MPs to play with. Anyone who is currently in employment & has saved a bit of money is completely fcukde, Corbyn will nick it to stock his free money shops."

Good grief, is this all your own work?
If it is call in a contractor.
I think he is a nut case as well, but you really need to get a grip with corny second hand stuff like that.

 

[OxygenJames]

As apparently is any rational thinking
But someone must have wanted "This Shambles to represent this country" for how else did the Conservatives scrape through at the last GE?
No one has EVER run a more shambolic regime than they are doing, as last nights vote proved!

Maybe OG maybe.

 

[oldgroaner]

I’m just watching two women fighting on BBC’s Politics Live. It’s like watching cats scrapping over the content of a dustbin.

Why are we in this position now? What the hell has been going off since June 2016?

This is what you get for voting Conservative!
If you did you are getting the Government you deserve, so what is your problem?

 

[OxygenJames]

The vote turned out as expected, TM tried offering an olive Branch, Corbyn tossed it back.
This isn't going to end well, is it?

Probably not.

 

[oldgroaner]

If he puts that in his manifesto, the Queens speech to open parliament will be fun.
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No one will notice that a different set of convicts, drug dealers and multi-millionaire MPs have taken over the asylum, will they? they really can't be any worse than this lot.

 

[OxygenJames]

Corbyn couldn't win a vote to open up the bar at a whorehouse.

He's just lost the latest vote by 19. We all knew that was coming. He's waited months to call that vote and decides to do it today? Huh? There was never a chance he would win it. Dummie. Useless man.

 

[oldgroaner]

Maybe OG maybe.

Just popped in to see if you were making your usual level of contribution (Zilch)
Quite possibly I have to agree no doubt I would make a hash of things, but I do actually work for nothing, so think of the economy involved if all politicians did that!
Why we could even afford Brexit!
(Actually that is a deliberate lie as the price is astronomical)

 

[flecc]

I’m just watching two women fighting on BBC’s Politics Live. It’s like watching cats scrapping over the content of a dustbin.

Why are we in this position now? What the hell has been going off since June 2016?

Whether we should Leave or Remain, the decision to call a referendum was the most damaging possible thing for our politics. Coming on top of the damaging Tory/LibDem coalition, the damage to our politics is huge and lasting.

Leaving is rightly a parliamentary decision that should have been started from a Leave manifesto position in a general election. Unfortunately only the LibDems had that position and that is where it should have been left until a more electable party eventually supported Leave.
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