Brexit, for once some facts.

[OxygenJames]

True, the great majority of the oppositions too.

I wonder why that is? Strange that a nation that voted Leave subsequently voted in mostly Remain MPs.

Talk about hedging bets!

Not so strange to me - as I've said a few times - the vote to leave was in essence a working class 'thing'. Very few MPs are genuinely working class. They are from a so-called 'educated' elite and no longer represent anything other than the wealthy on both sides of the political spectrum.

 

[OxygenJames]

TBF you are quite brilliant OJ

Awww. Shucks. You're too kind.

 

[OxygenJames]

The political class has never been further away from the proletariat than ever before on this issue.

We want out. 90% want in.

Right.

 

[flecc]

The political class has never been further away from the proletariat than ever before on this issue.

We want out. 90% want in.

Question is, who's right?

The people or the elected dictatorship?

If we really leave we'll find out, but if not we'll never know.
.

 

[Danidl]

Awww. Shucks. You're too kind.

... Perhaps soft in the head.

 

[OxygenJames]

Question is, who's right?

The people or the elected dictatorship?

If we really leave we'll find out, but if not we'll never know.
.

In a democracy it doesn't matter who's 'right' - it just matters who gets the most votes. We determine right from wrong by voting. Thats simply how it works. Now you may argue that whoever won was 'wrong'. But then you would - because you voted the other way.

Its a bit like trying to pick up a girl - no matter how 'right' you think you did all your moves - it's up to her - she votes and her vote alone counts.

 

[OxygenJames]

... Perhaps soft in the head.

Yeah. Probably.

 

[flecc]

In a democracy it doesn't matter who's 'right' - it just matters who gets the most votes. We determine right from wrong by voting. Thats simply how it works. Now you may argue that whoever won was 'wrong'. But then you would - because you voted the other way.

Its a bit like trying to pick up a girl - no matter how 'right' you think you did all your moves - it's up to her - she votes and her vote alone counts.

I meant who will be right on the outcome of Leaving. Will it prove to be a sensible decision.
.

 

[oldgroaner]

The 'government' lest you forget - is MADE UP OF REMAINERS.

Which country are you referring to? they are all leavers in the UK
Lest you forget.

 

[oldgroaner]

Unlike you who is always perfect in all ways.

So kind of you to say so

 

[oldgroaner]

I meant who will be right on the outcome of Leaving. Will it prove to be a sensible decision.
.

Obviously not! it simply gets worse every day

 

[oldgroaner]

True, the great majority of the oppositions too.

I wonder why that is? Strange that a nation that voted Leave subsequently voted in mostly Remain MPs.

Talk about hedging bets!
.

Because they weren't bright enough to see what was coming?

 

[oldgroaner]

In a democracy it doesn't matter who's 'right' - it just matters who gets the most votes. We determine right from wrong by voting. Thats simply how it works. Now you may argue that whoever won was 'wrong'. But then you would - because you voted the other way.

Its a bit like trying to pick up a girl - no matter how 'right' you think you did all your moves - it's up to her - she votes and her vote alone counts.

Except in this case the Leave campaign used prostitution to skew the result, and obtained a a win the biggest prostitution of all, Brexit!

And the dumb leave voters imagine they have some politicians on their side?
Why would the likes of Farage, Mogg, Bojo and Gove et all give a toss for you?
You really can't believe that.

 

[OxygenJames]

So kind of you to say so

Anytime.

 

[OxygenJames]

Which country are you referring to? they are all leavers in the UK
Lest you forget.

Huh? Anybody figure out what the old codger is trying to express here?

Drop me a line if you can.

Thanks.

 

[OxygenJames]

Except in this case the Leave campaign used prostitution to skew the result, and obtained a a win the biggest prostitution of all, Brexit!

And the dumb leave voters imagine they have some politicians on their side?
Why would the likes of Farage, Mogg, Bojo and Gove et all give a toss for you?
You really can't believe that.

You really are a miserable old sod at times.

 

[OxygenJames]

Because they weren't bright enough to see what was coming?

And you were of course.

What a charmer you are.

 

[OxygenJames]

Obviously not! it simply gets worse every day

Obviously to you. With your already set opinions about the future which NOBODY knows as of yet how it will turn out. Oh. Except you with your super-insights right? You really are a card.

 

[OxygenJames]

I meant who will be right on the outcome of Leaving. Will it prove to be a sensible decision.
.

Who knows. Right now nobody. And it also depends on what goes on with the rest of the world in the meantime. There are simply too many variables to predict accurately. Except for the old codger who thinks just because he predicted the right result of the vote he has some god-given ability to see into the future. Which of course he doesn't. Fact is - nobody knows. My prediction is that it will all turn out just fine - IF we leave. If not we're tied into that bloody club for god knows how many more years.

 

[tommie]

I see Leo and Simon now looking for Special Status for Ireland from the EU cabal...........fingers crossed guys!

.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ireland-coveney-idUSKCN1OI2MO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c1b1d2d04d30142621b036c&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Dear Leo we did tell you this over a year ago !


Special Status for ROI in EU Obvious Answer to Hard Border

Statement by TUV leader Jim Allister:- November 10, 2017

“It is EU intransigence and ideological insistence on the sanctity of its single market and customs union which threatens a hard border on the island of Ireland. The UK seeks free trade, but Brussels insists on preserving its tariffs: hence the prospect of a customs border. So, let the responsibility for any resulting hard border be clear.
“It is nonsense to talk about preserving the rules of the EU single market and customs union, either for Northern Ireland or the UK as a whole, for such equates to staying in the EU. The UK is leaving, like it or not, so it is time the EU came to terms with that reality.
“There is a way to protect against a hard border and if the EU cared anything for the economy of the Republic of Ireland it would be rolling out such a proposal, namely, Special Status for the Republic within the EU, whereby it could continue to trade tariff free with its neighbour the UK. At a stroke the hard border issue would be largely resolved and the devastating risk to the Republic’s economy removed.
“However, it seems the EU’s ideology is more important to it than the Republic’s economy. One day, the Republic may realise that its economic interests are best protected by itself leaving the EU and thereby preserving its access to its key UK market, but that is a matter for the people of the Republic. We in Northern Ireland, like the rest of our nation, are leaving, with or without a deal.”