Perhaps now we are leaving we might recommence these technologies...We might have to.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Yes I produced a small run of some aftermarket motorcycle split flanges using UK firms using laser cutting and CNC machining - looked to expand to different models using a mix of forged and CNC machined processing - UK firms either didn't want to know, nor replied and what quotes came back in time were prohibitively expensive. Chinese firms replied in a matter of hours and even flying as delivery method undercut everything else. Still project stalled as a gamble if there was a market for my project.
Similar story with me. I priced up some wake board towers, the branded ones from USA were crazy price. Got a price from China, a quarter of price. Turned out they were identical and the American ones were actually from China..
Sold the batch but not really my business. The quality of the items from China was superb.
Lower income inequality in Sweden than the US or UK has been a fact since records began (late 1800s).
I have Swedish friends and they tell me it is something inherent within the culture and nothing to do with politics - though often 'socialism' tries to take credit for it.
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Amazing how contorted the mind becomes trying to make things fit into a nice theory. Life is messy. It follows no rules. That's how come I like Brexit - it's thrown a spanner into the works - shook up the system. We'll see where the pieces land.
So let the high street die. Something else will take its place. If China can make it cheaper and we're happy with the quality - great - let them do it and we'll get on with doing something else - as I keep fricking well saying.
This is how things work. Those that can make a profit doing something - great - do that. If you can't you will go bust and the resources will be put somewhere else. And so on. And this process has produced the most wealthy state - as a global economy - ever.
Fewer people EVER are now in poverty. Increases in population have NOT resulted in falling living standards - exactly the opposite - the opposite of the scare mongers in the 70s who said rising population would destroy the world. And as it happens global population rates are falling and it currently looks like we're going to stabilise at around 10b.
But who knows. Either way what an amazing time to be alive. The best ever for millions and millions of people - more millions of people than ever before.
Even Africa is getting its sh&t together - who would ever have thought that! (and why - manly because mobile connections are allowing ordinary people to form markets and locate and pay for goods and services independent of governments - as per usual its governments who tend to mess things up - people left to their own devices often get along and produce things and trade with each other perfectly well - no central control is required).
different brexits have different consequences.
that's why which brexit should be left to parliament to decide.
I love this idea that there are different kinds of Brexit. It's nonsense of course.
Indeed, it's inherent socialism!
Socialism has always existed as a fact, even before being named as such.
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No contortions or theories about the shambles of the British and UK structures. There are experts on these historic and present matters, far more knowledgeable than me about them.
Perhaps you should tell them their minds are contorted.
Meanwhile I prefer to be guided by them and the realities of this country than by your closed mind.
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You are being really short sighted ,and i suspect have little understanding of real economics. If you actually have a higher value activity, it can be occasionally acceptable in divesting ones self of a low added value activity. But you must be conscious that the new player will invest in R&D , typically of 10% of their sales price. Carry that on for a few years ,and any gap has been bridged, carry it on a little longer and you are paying a premium for their product. In my youth we used to talk about cheap Japanese Tat. Now the Koreans are there,the chinese beside them, and all the time your country is paying out of its reserves ,which continues until there is nothing left.
It might surprise you, but I agree with all of that. I'm all for leaving business to do what it does best and government using the resultant income to run a fair society.
The two snags for me though are first, that our governments fall down on the last part, and second, that in a free trade scenario someone ends up at the bottom, and that could be us on present and recent past performance.
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Did you actually read my post? I asked how it would be received by the leave voters and did not say I agreed with them.
Try telling them that Northern Ireland is part of us, when they can see it is actually not physically part of the mainland, and plainly is part of greater Ireland.
Worse,it is getting in the way of their great Brexit idea.
And since there appears to be a majority now for unity with the south, all it will take is or Corbyn once in power giving them a referendum.
And that is exactly what he has always wanted, a reunited ireland.
I did if Corbyn gets into no 10 he will give them a referendum
Sounds like the talk of somebody who does not run their own business.
I could be wrong of course - but when it comes to 'real economics' people who run their own businesses tend to make the most sense.
Not always true I might add - some businesses succeed only due to a rigged system they're lucky enough to be in.
Do you run your own business Danidl? Or do you work for somebody else and take a salary? Or a student? Or not working? Or something else?
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Northern Ireland voted to leave the EU. Their DUP ruling party doesn't want to, seems democracy doesn't count for much with them.
dear o dear.....FYI flecc, didn`t i tell you to get out of that `bubble` of yours!!
I mean who in their right mind would want to join some Third World Banana republic taking orders from a Mafia band of gangsters in Brussels!......C`MON LOL!!!!
New poll finds just 21% support for a united Ireland, despite fears about post-Brexit Irish border
Monday May 21st 2018
Two separate polls have found no evidence that Brexit has yet caused a radical shift in public opinion which would make a referendum on a united Ireland remotely winnable.
In findings which have added significance because of the Prime Minister’s reported suggestion to Tory MPs last week that she was not confident a border poll would definitely be won by unionism, an Ipsos MORI poll for academics found that just 21.1% of people in Northern Ireland would vote for Irish unity after the UK leaves the EU.
The poll, commissioned by academics at Queen’s University Belfast for a major piece of research examining how Brexit is shaping political opinion in Northern Ireland, found that not even half of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland, with just 42.6% of Catholics favouring that option – although a large percentage, 26%, were undecided.
And a second poll, commissioned by think tank Policy Exchange ahead of a major conference in London today examining the future of the Union, found that a clear majority of people across the UK are in favour of the Union in its current form – with 68% support in England, 52% in Scotland, 66% in Wales and 59% in Northern Ireland.
The ICM poll also found that a majority of people in the UK say their support for the Union has remained constant or has risen in recent years – 78% in England, 60% in Scotland, 69% in Wales, 70% in Northern Ireland.
Well if it is us then that's the kick up the backside to do things better!
Guide to how the EU democracy (dictatorship) works..
Imagine your team has won the FA Cup Final but the FA then said ‘no it’s our competition, the match was only advisory, we have decided to replay until your opposition wins, or we might just put their name on the trophy regardless’-
Welcome to the Brexit ‘democracy (Dictatorship)’.
Imagine your team has won the FA Cup Final but the FA then said ‘no it’s our competition, the match was only advisory, we have decided to replay until your opposition wins, or we might just put their name on the trophy regardless’-
Welcome to the Brexit ‘democracy (Dictatorship)’.