Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

The uk doesnt manufacture much where did you read that jem in a news paper
what an uneducated reply
this is the kind of rubbish being spouted off on this thread
and with this attitude and disbelieve in the country no wander it will end up going to hell
why dont you just roll over and have a good kicking while your down there.

As this is on topic, it deserves a response.
"what an uneducated reply" Indeed! UK should be capitalised "doesnt" should be "doesn't" "jem" is incorrect it should be "gem"
Also the "disbelieve" is not used in this fashion, that should be "disbelief"
and the word is "wonder" not "wander"
Apparently the use of the comma is another skill you are lacking.
Lastly it's not "your" it's "you're"
Considering the level of your education, are you expecting to be taken seriously?
Who told you the UK is a great manufacturing nation?
No Steel, No Aluminium, most manufacturing that there is, is under Foreign ownership.
You seem to have strong views on things you clearly know nothing about, don't you?
And yet object to this thread, now why could that be?

 

[oldgroaner]

The first post on page 200 of this thread.

I anticipate that the first post on page 300 will announce what a wonderful success BREXIT has been.

Am I too early to offer my Congratulations?

 

[trex]

The first post on page 200 of this thread.

I anticipate that the first post on page 300 will announce what a wonderful success BREXIT has been.

would you care to post what you think the shape of a successful brexit will be?

 

[oldgroaner]

Perhaps it would be a good idea to formulate our own paradigm on the issue of Brexit , as it looks as if the clowns tasked with the job would be better replaced with the room full of Monkeys rewriting Shakespeare's "Midsummer Night's Dream, and we ought to be able to do better than Boris and the other fool Fox who has already had his first public cock up .
How about it, how would we approach the problem?
My starter for ten would be to draft in the Professor of law from Glasgow University and his team to find out what our legal problems are.

 

[derf]

Perhaps it would be a good idea to formulate our own paradigm on the issue of Brexit , as it looks as if the clowns tasked with the job would be better replaced with the room full of Monkeys rewriting Shakespeare's "Midsummer Night's Dream, and we ought to be able to do better than Boris and the other fool Fox who has already had his first public cock up .
How about it, how would we approach the problem?
My starter for ten would be to draft in the Professor of law from Glasgow University and his team to find out what our legal problems are.

i sincerely do not want to sound negative. But it would feel to me on par with trying to draft either a suicide note or an ISIS style confession for one of those orange jump suit TV appearances. The best thing I can com up with is a brief, contrite note on behalf of teh british nation to the EU saying "we have made a terrible mistake. The summer was too hot and too long and the cider too strong and too many of us had been on benefits for too long. Kindly forget all about that little brexit paroxym and accept us back. We promise to be very, very nice from now on"

 

[trex]

many will ask 'is paroxysm a word?'

 

[tillson]

would you care to post what you think the shape of a successful brexit will be?

Free from any political, policy, & financial influence from the EU, but free to trade with both the single EU market and the rest of the world. The pound will be sitting at around 1.5 Euros and $1.65.

France will be preparing for a referendum of their own with Germany and Italy soon to follow.

 

[oldgroaner]

i sincerely do not want to sound negative. But it would feel to me on par with trying to draft either a suicide note or an ISIS style confession for one of those orange jump suit TV appearances. The best thing I can com up with is a brief, contrite note on behalf of teh british nation to the EU saying "we have made a terrible mistake. The summer was too hot and too long and the cider too strong and too many of us had been on benefits for too long. Kindly forget all about that little brexit paroxym and accept us back. We promise to be very, very nice from now on"

Would you like Nigel Farage's Head on a plate might be enough to swing it!

 

[oldgroaner]

Free from any political, policy, & financial influence from the EU, but free to trade with both the single EU market and the rest of the world. The pound will be sitting at around 1.5 Euros and $1.65.

France will be preparing for a referendum of their own with Germany and Italy soon to follow.

Tillson for Prime Minister! you shall have my vote!

 

[derf]

Free from any political, policy, & financial influence from the EU, but free to trade with both the single EU market and the rest of the world. The pound will be sitting at around 1.5 Euros and $1.65.

France will be preparing for a referendum of their own with Germany and Italy soon to follow.

the snag, as in trex's post about EFTA, is that in a globalised world we would have to belong to a customs union or be out in the cold where we couldnt survive. And so we would start the same EU journey all over again as free trade means free movement of labour and capital..

but we would restart the journey as an unattractive, old, recent divorcee as opposed to being in the unhappy but good for us marriage that was the EU. I think there were significant delusions of national grandeur fueling brexit that will not come true

 

[Kudoscycles]

would you care to post what you think the shape of a successful brexit will be?

Pear shaped

 

[Kudoscycles]

Free from any political, policy, & financial influence from the EU, but free to trade with both the single EU market and the rest of the world. The pound will be sitting at around 1.5 Euros and $1.65.

France will be preparing for a referendum of their own with Germany and Italy soon to follow.

Tillson....so the EU is going to allow us to free trade with China and India,with no tariff barriers,that includes no anti-dumping duty (remember bicycles are 48%),then we can sell into the EU free trade and undercut every German manufacturer because he is still having to pay duty on all his imports.
Do you really think the EU is stupid enough to allow that to happen?
KudosDave

 

[flecc]

France will be preparing for a referendum of their own with Germany and Italy soon to follow.

In that case we could take a leaf out of the book of Irish politics and form the Provisional EU, inviting them to join us as an EU rival.

The Provisional one would be the more ruthless of course, something Germany should be good at, so it could be a great success.
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[anotherkiwi]

I don't think there are any leaders in the EU stupid enough to hold a referendum. Top marks for that wake up call!

I really think The French should give Calais back to you. They'll keep Bordeaux, it belongs to the Chinese now anyway...

 

[oldgroaner]

I don't think there are any leaders in the EU stupid enough to hold a referendum. Top marks for that wake up call!

I really think The French should give Calais back to you. They'll keep Bordeaux, it belongs to the Chinese now anyway...

You are so right! after seeing the damage that the referendum has done here any EU government would have to be completely insane to permit a referendum!

 

[tillson]

You are so right! after seeing the damage that the referendum has done here any EU government would have to be completely insane to permit a referendum!

I don't think they will have any choice. It will be either hold a referendum or lose out to a party which will offer one. You are forgetting that the population decide, not the politicians.

 

[Croxden]

I watched the tv programme on the making of the Brompton bike.
At the start is said the steel was from Spain, most of the workers appeared to be immigrants and it boasts of being British. Is there such a thing?

 

[eHomer]

The first post on page 200 of this thread.

I anticipate that the first post on page 300 will announce what a wonderful success BREXIT has been.

Doubtful, I think.

The pessimistic speculation appears to be unlimited.

 

[flecc]

most of the workers appeared to be immigrants

They aren't immigrants, they're Londoners Croxden, like me.

Only 46% of Londoners are White, British born. A fair proportion of the remaining 54% are also British born but not white. For those of us here none of this makes any difference, as far as we are concerned we're all Londoners, even those who only arrived yesterday.

For the price of a train ticket you could be a Londoner too!
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[Croxden]

They aren't immigrants, they're Londoners Croxden, like me.

Only 46% of Londoners are White, British born. A fair proportion of the remaining 54% are also British born but not white. For those of us here none of this makes any difference, as far as we are concerned we're all Londoners, even those who only arrived yesterday.
.

I was not intending to be critical, I was going by their accents only. Good men are good men from wherever there're from (or women).