Brexit, for once some facts.
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I am not at all convinced of that. The mood seems split but with a distinct majority in favour of remain, as I see it.
It was nonsense, not said in that context ,and misquoted. And was discussed here
previously...
I believe it was part of the vilification process that UK media were engaged in when they finally realised that Ireland was not one of the Shetlands. The date of the article is significant.
Ireland along with Scotland cover all traffic from Europe to and from the USA,again international agreements.
Overflying each others territories was never in question. But landing rights ,except in emergencies, and take off permission are and were. . The overflying protocols are governed by IATA and UN mediated bodies, not the EU. Landing on the sovereign territory needs permission. Many of the regional airports I fly into around Europe do not have customs or immigration desks open. However if UK originating flights are to be accomodated, they would need to have these . How many local communities are going to foot the bill for what is a minor part of the business.. . In mainland Europe, many of the airports are run by the local chambers of commerce.
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Absolutely correct lol!!
Why do you keep making obvious mistakes?
This was in The Times
I recommend you actually read and understand posts before commenting
This was the post
"A Brexit minister has been caught up in the controversy surrounding spending by the campaign to leave the European Union because of a memo he wrote in early 2016.
Has been caught up is in the present tense
because of a memo he wrote in early 2016. is in the past not the present tense
according to the latest polls, it seems remain would lead by 54/46 but it is risky, you may not get what you vote for like last time, remain lead vanished shortly before the day. If remain wins the second referendum only by a narrow margin, the problem is not going to go away, millions will want another referendum.
The fact is millions expressed a wish, politicians promised to carry it out but don't know how to beside a hard brexit.
WTO brexit does not carry a known disadvantage because it's untried and untested, no matter how hard you try to convince brexit voters, while the current withdrawal deal has obvious disadvantages compared to current membership.
If you offer a referendum between current deal and remain, remain will win.
If you offer a referendum between current deal and WTO brexit, brexit will win.
If you offer a referendum between current deal and WTO brexit and remain, WTO brexit may wiin and still less than 50%, the result won't put the matter to rest.
If you consider that the UK leaves with WTO brexit and the cost is confirmed as astronomical, the UK will seek to rejoin but then, it will be a very different UK. This time, the problem will be laid to rest.
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And of course he was completely wrong, wasn't he? and that is because the problems causing us to borrow increasing amounts of money were not due to the EEC but to lousy internal policies, which had we not been in the EEC would have put us back relying on IMF loans.
You really have no idea of the difference between words spoken loudly and reality.
Lots of deluded politicians come out with stirring rhetoric.
It's the lingua franka of professional con artists, effective when used against a gullible audience.
It didn't work back then, because there were enough people to see through the nonsense.
the leave campaign were lucky to find the modern voters were easy prey, so much so in fact that even after exposure to the truth, many of them are still unable to think again and the more extreme among them resort to posting nonsense.
Really? the only way that Hard Brexit on WTO terms actually has an advantage is that it might be just the thing to teach the population very quickly how much of a mistake Brexit really is
From the Telegraph this morning
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Brexit ultimatum Michael Gove leading Cabinet 'gang of five' with plan to force Theresa May into last-minute changes to EU deal
Well as a waste of effort that would be hard to beat, as the EU has finished with it and negotiations are over.
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Brexit ultimatum Michael Gove leading Cabinet 'gang of five' with plan to force Theresa May into last-minute changes to EU deal
Well as a waste of effort that would be hard to beat, as the EU has finished with it and negotiations are over.
From the Express
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Brexit SHOCK: Theresa May's deal with EU perfectly 'predicted 18 MONTHS AGO'
THERESA May's Brexit deal was published this week but a senior politician predicted everything eighteen months, according to sources.
Who would have thought it? they must have been reading this thread at the time!
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Brexit SHOCK: Theresa May's deal with EU perfectly 'predicted 18 MONTHS AGO'
THERESA May's Brexit deal was published this week but a senior politician predicted everything eighteen months, according to sources.
Who would have thought it? they must have been reading this thread at the time!
Start with a smile
Ken Clarke @MrKennethClarke
I've been sat up in bed for hours, whisky on the bedside table, soft jazz playing in the background, trying to think if I've ever worked with a more idiotic bunch of self centred bastards in my nearly 50 years as a MP. Nope, still can't think of any. Time for another bottle.
3:58 PM - 15 Nov 2018
But this is obviously a parody account
Sat up in bed for hours at 3:58 PM in the afternoon?
Fake news of the day award in the humour category
Ken Clarke @MrKennethClarke
I've been sat up in bed for hours, whisky on the bedside table, soft jazz playing in the background, trying to think if I've ever worked with a more idiotic bunch of self centred bastards in my nearly 50 years as a MP. Nope, still can't think of any. Time for another bottle.
3:58 PM - 15 Nov 2018
But this is obviously a parody account
Sat up in bed for hours at 3:58 PM in the afternoon?
Fake news of the day award in the humour category