Brexit, for once some facts.

[flecc]

I don't know whether UK residents can access the rte player app. ,But if you can, there was an extended interview by an official from the Irish official food marketing organisation, covering dairy products etc in a post BREXIt situation. Today between 11 and 12 . RTE radio 1.
It makes serious comments about cheese,butter, meat quality etc .. obviously from the Irish perspective, but with importance to UK markets.

Danidl, unlike the BBC i-player I can't find any way to scroll back to an earlier program on the RTE player, only current and next or previous day's programs.

If you can tell me the program name I can use the search facility to try to find that one.

Edit: I've found it's "Marian Finucane" but the link to today's program is dead. It appears the RTE Radio player won't allow access to any earlier program same day, only previous days.
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[Danidl]

Danidl, unlike the BBC i-player I can't find any way to scroll back to an earlier program on the RTE player, only current and next or previous day's programs.

If you can tell me the program name I can use the search facility to try to find that one.

Edit: I've found it's "Marian Finucane" but the link to today's program is dead. It appears the RTE Radio player won't allow access to any earlier program same day, only previous days.
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It will be the Marian Finucane show ,but , probably nor accessible until tomorrow,or p monday Sorry ,but it is in my opinion pretty clear information.

 

[flecc]

It will be the Marian Finucane show ,but , probably nor accessible until tomorrow,or p monday Sorry ,but it is in my opinion pretty clear information.

Thanks, no problem, I'll listen tomorrow or Monday. I'd got too used the i-player where I can instantly scroll back to earlier programs!
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[oyster]

I don’t think that the percentage of people wanting to remain would be as high as 90%.

I agree it is extremely unlikely to reach 90% - but it was to make a point.

Why not hold a referendum every year? But if it indicates a change of course, then spend the next few years planning that course. If the majority is still in favour, yes, go with it. Just don't take a one-off advisory referendum as an absolute mandate for all time - and the general election didn't really present a remain/leave option, did it?

 

[oyster]

Frabjous joy. Remind me not to get seriously ill in the next few months...

Hospital food at risk from no-deal Brexit

Department of Health writes to trusts advising of contingency plans for short supply of imported ingredients

Hospitals could run out of much of the imported food that goes into millions of patient meals in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the Department of Health and Social Care has admitted in a letter to all NHS trusts in England.


The department said it was urgently planning to cope with potential “short supply of certain ingredients imported from the EU”, which involves advising suppliers how to use “substitute foodstuffs to maintain nutritional balance” of meals.


The letter – part of the government’s cross-departmental planning for a no-deal Brexit – shows the concern about practical difficulties for key public services from border delays and increased trade friction in the event of no deal.

The Observer understands planning is also under way to prepare organisations that provide meals to schools, prisons and care homes.


The letter, details of which have been provided to MPs on the health and social care select committee by the deputy chief executive of NHS providers, Saffron Cordery, tells trusts: “Instructions will be given to major producers of patient meals to put in place contingency arrangements, to account for short supply of certain ingredients.”


It adds that “guidance will be provided to hospital caterers, procurers of patient food and catering services, and PFI providers on actions to take in preparing to use substitute foodstuffs to maintain nutritional balance of patient menu/meal offerings.”


Andy Jones, chairman of Public Sector 100, which represents catering associations working in the public sector, who has seen the letter, said he was “very, very concerned” that supplies would be affected. While he believed trusts could make plans that would be effective for weeks, after that, problems would mount and the position would become critical. He said the fact the department had sent the letter to trusts suggested ministers now believed a no-deal was ever more likely. He said about 40% of food provided to in-patients was imported from the EU, much of it under the “just-in-time” system, which ensures speedy delivery. Much of the chicken, and salad consumed out of season, came from the EU.


“It is not just of case of whether we will be able to get enough, if there is no deal,” he said, “but also whether we will be able to afford it. Good food is vital for patients. Food is like medicine. If patients don’t get it then in some cases they will not get home. One thing we will see I think is choice disappearing. People will just be given what we can get our hands on.”


The Tory chairman of the all-party health select committee, Sarah Wollaston, said: “It is becoming ever clearer that we are not just facing a shortage of drugs but also many other things which hospitals need to function. Food is one them. The cost and work involved in dealing is staggering. Surely there is a better use and of time and money.”

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/10/hospital-food-at-risk-no-deal-brexit

 

[oldgroaner]

I've given an Agree, but differ on this point.

I'm sure that virtually the whole country are agreed on one thing, that the whole Leave process from referendum to the present is a totally unsatisfactory mess with at present no outcome possible that is acceptable to a clear majority.

Therefore the sensible thing is to do nothing, meaning scrap Article 50 and put the whole matter in abbeyance for the present. Note it must be stressed that this would not be a decision to Remain indefinitely, just an indeterminate delay to allow room for more considered thought by all before a fresh decision on how to proceed. No winners, no losers, to get the poison out of the atmosphere.
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We are living through an "Anarchist's wet dream"

This is a country that is on the verge of being ungovernable by a totally incompetent administration.

And with no opposition to it doing anything it likes, it has proved incapable of knowing what it wants, because it is utterly unable to comprehend the scale of the disaster facing us all

And the public? for the sake of argument say 50% are still in favour, even though by now they ought to have no reason to do so apart from a belief in a Fantasy of Empire Mark 2
They have obviously learned nothing in the intervening two years that has penetrated the Brexit Goggles.

And the other 50% of the Public don't want Brexit at any price yet have no one in a position to represent them and make a Tinker's Cuss of difference, as the one who should be doing sees himself as a "Pound shop Lenin" that will save the Nation by Nationalising everything in sight

Other Nations are developing Driverless Cars, we have developed after 2000 odd years a Driverless Nation

 

[Woosh]

Other Nations are developing Driverless Cars, we have developed after 2000 odd years a Driverless Nation

excellent remark.

 

[flecc]

Other Nations are developing Driverless Cars, we have developed after 2000 odd years a Driverless Nation

And both crash.
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[tillson]

I agree it is extremely unlikely to reach 90% - but it was to make a point.

Why not hold a referendum every year? But if it indicates a change of course, then spend the next few years planning that course. If the majority is still in favour, yes, go with it. Just don't take a one-off advisory referendum as an absolute mandate for all time - and the general election didn't really present a remain/leave option, did it?

Yes I agree, and I understand that you are just making a point.

The referendum, as you say, was just a snapshot on that particular day. The margin was very close and it wouldn’t surprise me if the percentage wanting to remain has drifted back and forth either side of 50% several times since the referendum.


The thing that concerns me is the fact that we have a perfect storm brewing. It takes the form of Theresa May being in charge. I know I keep going on about her, but if you look at her history, everything, without exception, that she has been involved with has been a failure. Amber Rudd was sacrificed for May’s handling of Windrush, Policing is severely handicapped by May’s hand as Home Secretary. There are many other examples, but all can be traced back to two poor personality traits, an inability to take advice and an inability to adapt to changing circumstances. She will forge ahead with Brexit regardless of the outcome because she is determined to go down in history as the person who took us out of the EU. She has no interest in what that actually means or the consequences for the country. Those two things aren’t on her radar at all, just a stubborn determination to press on exists. A determination to forge ahead in the face of overwhelming evidence that a change of course needs to be considered. Just like she did as Home Secretary.

 

[oldgroaner]

Only in America
Nine people are dead, many more are missing and 6,000 homes are in ashes. President Trump’s response? Hey, California, I’m going to cut your funding.


Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump
There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!

Why is Trump still at large? he is unworthy of any office anywhere in the world

 

[oldgroaner]

Fair Taxation of the Digital Economy

On 21 March 2018, the European Commission proposed new rules to ensure that digital business activities are taxed in a fair and growth-friendly way in the EU.
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/fair-taxation-digital-economy_en
What is the Commission proposing?
The Commission has made two legislative proposals:

• The first initiative aims to reform corporate tax rules so that profits are registered and taxed where businesses have significant interaction with users through digital channels. This forms the Commission's preferred long-term solution.
  
• The second proposal responds to calls from several Member States for an interim tax which covers the main digital activities that currently escape tax altogether in the EU.
  
  

 

[wheeler]

It's still bòidheach Alba , wheeler!

A border reiver with the gaelic, who'd have thunk it?

wheeler

 

[oyster]

How many more blows does TM want to attract?

New blow to Theresa May as EU leaders demand scrutiny of Brexit deal

Member states say they must see any deal reached with UK before special summit is called

 

[oldgroaner]

A border reiver with the gaelic, who'd have thunk it?

wheeler

Devious lot the Bells!

 

[oldgroaner]

How many more blows does TM want to attract?

New blow to Theresa May as EU leaders demand scrutiny of Brexit deal

Member states say they must see any deal reached with UK before special summit is called

This is going nowhere fast!

 

[oyster]

Fair Taxation of the Digital Economy

On 21 March 2018, the European Commission proposed new rules to ensure that digital business activities are taxed in a fair and growth-friendly way in the EU.
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/fair-taxation-digital-economy_en
What is the Commission proposing?
The Commission has made two legislative proposals:

• The first initiative aims to reform corporate tax rules so that profits are registered and taxed where businesses have significant interaction with users through digital channels. This forms the Commission's preferred long-term solution.
  
• The second proposal responds to calls from several Member States for an interim tax which covers the main digital activities that currently escape tax altogether in the EU.
  

At least at first glance, that looks quite sensible.

 

[oyster]

Only in America
Nine people are dead, many more are missing and 6,000 homes are in ashes. President Trump’s response? Hey, California, I’m going to cut your funding.

James Cook added,
Nine people are dead, many more are missing and 6,000 homes are in ashes. President Trump’s response? Hey, California, I’m going to cut your funding.


Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump
There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!

Why is Trump still at large? he is unworthy of any office anywhere in the world

Was that before or after he got confused between Balkans and Baltics? What a load of Ballocks.

And was that before or after he cancelled his visit to the graveyard due to rain? I really wonder what the soldiers of 1918 would have thought of that. Or even any of today.

Nicholas Soames, the Conservative MP and grandson of Sir Winston Churchill, tweeted: “They died with their face to the foe and that pathetic inadequate @realDonaldTrump couldn’t even defy the weather to pay his respects to The Fallen #hesnotfittorepresenthisgreatcountry.”

It is awful that I keep asking myself if the only way we'll get rid of him in the shorter term is if Air Force One somehow doesn't make it back to the USA. Seems like a way out for him.

 

[oyster]

How many more attacks will her colleagues make on TM?

Justine Greening says Theresa May is ‘handing power to EU’ in Brexit deal

Top Tory attacks ‘sovereignty giveaway’ as Brexiters echo remainers’ claims

Toby Helm and Michael Savage




Justine Greening says Britain would be left in the ‘worst of all worlds’. Photograph: David Mirzoeff/PA

Theresa May was accused last night by a former cabinet colleague of planning the “biggest giveaway of sovereignty in modern times”, as she faced a potentially devastating pincer movement from Tory remainers and leavers condemning her Brexit plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/10/justine-greening-says-theresa-may-handing-power-to-eu-in-brexit-deal

 

[Wicky]

It is awful that I keep asking myself if the only way we'll get rid of him in the shorter term is if Air Force One somehow doesn't make it back to the USA. Seems like a way out for him.

There's a precedent in his hair Trumping most normal human behaviour esp when it's raining...

 

[Wicky]

and in other BREAKING NEWS (if only :-( )

Donald Trump accidentally deports himself in national security crackdown

The exact location of the President Of The United States Donald Trump is currently unknown after he accidentally deported himself in a national security crackdown.

According to reports, Trump signed an emergency executive order relating to border control and the need for dangerous, unhinged individuals to be kept out of the country, and within ten minutes ICE officials were bundling him into the back of an armoured vehicle.

One White House source said, ‘The President was keen to consolidate his border position after the mid-term election results meant that his Mexico wall would now be marginally less possible than finding one of Big Foot’s morning dumps in Yellowstone National Park.’

‘Unfortunately, he specified in the exact wording that those with a questionable ancestry should be removed at once, and his Loompaland heritage meant that he was immediately a prime candidate.’

It is thought that Trump still has access to Twitter, with his official account posting, ‘Very good work by my hard-working ICE people. Very, very good. Where am I?’