Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

What has 'fracking' got to do with our intention of exiting the EU?

A read through this article might inform you more than any government propaganda about both the dangers of 'fracking' and the way the issue of nuclear waste disposal is tied to it. Interestingly, the UK has used the nuclear waste disposal system currently in place as a threat against the EU in the discussions over 'Brexit'

https://steemit.com/news/@francesleader/oil-and-gas-wells-are-radioactive-exposing-the-truth-about-fracking?fbclid=iwar0fwbv_mprv4hq1bnwasj0eqvjt0brdz_wmwz58y0ekj03zzsz0lmtpno8

More than a little frightening!

Tom

 

[flecc]

What has 'fracking' got to do with our intention of exiting the EU?

A read through this article might inform you more than any government propaganda about both the dangers of 'fracking' and the way the issue of nuclear waste disposal is tied to it. Interestingly, the UK has used the nuclear waste disposal system currently in place as a threat against the EU in the discussions over 'Brexit'

https://steemit.com/news/@francesleader/oil-and-gas-wells-are-radioactive-exposing-the-truth-about-fracking?fbclid=iwar0fwbv_mprv4hq1bnwasj0eqvjt0brdz_wmwz58y0ekj03zzsz0lmtpno8

More than a little frightening!

Tom

Sorry Tom, that article is totally crackpot, the links within to articles containing the most obvious lies.

Issues like this where there are suspicions should be dealt with by serious investigation, not such silly nonsense.
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[oldtom]

Sorry Tom, that article is totally crackpot, the links within to articles containing the most obvious lies.

Issues like this where there are suspicions should be dealt with by serious investigation, not such silly nonsense.
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I wish I were as confident as you 'flecc' that this tale is crackpot. I fear there is more than a little truth contained therein but regardless of that, I am not at all convinced that fracking on the British mainland is a good idea.

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

Sorry Tom, that article is totally crackpot, the links within to articles containing the most obvious lies.

Issues like this where there are suspicions should be dealt with by serious investigation, not such silly nonsense.
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Reasons to be cheerful : a genuine Brexit Bonus! (Roll of drums please!)

1. Toshiba 'aint gonna build the next generation Nuclear Plant
2. We can't apparently afford to
   
3. After Brexit we may well not need it anyway!
4. No additional Nuclear waste to leak into the Irish Sea (accidentally)

 

[oldtom]

More about the replacement for the twat David Davis, the over-ambitious Domidick Raab…..



I shouldn't take the mick really with this guy as he claims to be a Karate black-belt (3rd Dan)…..although a friend of mine says that's incorrect and his only claim to fame is actually an award under the Duke of Edinburgh's scheme for services to origami?

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

I wish I were as confident as you 'flecc' that this tale is crackpot. I fear there is more than a little truth contained therein but regardless of that, I am not at all convinced that fracking on the British mainland is a good idea.

Tom

I disagree tom, this is a brilliant defence strategy far better than Trident!
What country in it's right mind wants to invade a nation on the point of turning itself into a pile of radioactive and or chemically poisonous rubble?
Think of the fun, we could have our very own version of this
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A flaming big hole that won't stop burning: Giant gas crater called The Door To Hell that was caused by drilling blunder and was expected to burn out after a few days…in 1971

Still smoking: The Door To Hell, a 230-feet wide crater, situated near Derweze village in Turkmenistan, has been burning since 1971
Scientists decided that the most efficient way to solve the problem would be to burn off the poisonous gases - by doing so, it was expected that all of the gas in the crater would be burnt off within days.

More than four decades later, though, the crater is still ablaze - and hundreds of tourists flock to visit it every year.
Cheap, and within the bounds of good old DIY British Artificial Stupidity!

And the supreme irony is by the time we extract anything of value from fracking, we won't need it any more!
The need for oil will be drastically reduced
Almost as smart as a new generation of Inflammable Fracking Gas filled Zeppelins!
Well it is lighter than air with a typical SG of 0.5537
We could call it "Hindenberg's Revenge"

As a rider on that there are over 20 other sites where holes in the ground are still on fire after twenty years.

Fracking is supposed to be safe and Foolproof.
As my Dear departed father used to say

"Nothing is Foolproof to a talented Fool"

 

[tillson]

Reasons to be cheerful : a genuine Brexit Bonus! (Roll of drums please!)

1. Toshiba 'aint gonna build the next generation Nuclear Plant
2. We can't apparently afford to
   
3. After Brexit we may well not need it anyway!
4. No additional Nuclear waste to leak into the Irish Sea (accidentally)

I better get some new batteries for my iron lung.

 

[Woosh]

Jo Johnson (brother of Boris, minister of transport) has just quit over brexit, calling for a second referendum.
Boris must feel lonely. His dad, brother and sister all disagree with him over brexit.
Stanley called A50 the “Non-Recallable Intercontinental Ballistic Missile”.
Jo said the UK was "barrelling towards an incoherent Brexit".
Rachel said "I think it’s only fair, it’s only right, it’s only democratic that, having voted to leave, the public after two years gets a say on whether they really want to go ahead with this."

 

[oldgroaner]

I better get some new batteries for my iron lung.

Is it the portable version?

 

[flecc]

I wish I were as confident as you 'flecc' that this tale is crackpot. I fear there is more than a little truth contained therein but regardless of that, I am not at all convinced that fracking on the British mainland is a good idea.

Here's a tiny sample of the crackpot in that article and its links Tom:

The Queen has been supplying depleted uranium.

Two million evacuated from Chernobyl. (It was actually the 49,360 residents)

The two million evacuees have all died young. Just not true, many of those who stayed where they were evacuated have suffered depression through being in cities rather than the former countryside. They have been living slightly less long than the ones who immediately returned to Chernobyl and carried on with their lives in the polluted area.

The latter are happily and healthily living into old age, typically into their 80s. Some of the younger ones married and had healthy children who in many cases have grown into healthy adulthood in the same supposedly dangerous area, and all the returnees have lived on the produce of the polluted land.

But of course this truth isn't welcomed by the fanatically anti nuclear bigots like the author of this crackpot page, so they continue to publish this pathetic and deliberately untrue nonsense.

There is an abundance of evidence of how harmless nuclear radiation is at well above "safe" limits, generations of mammalian life continuing unaltered at astonishly high levels in some cases.

As for fracking, I'm happy with it so long as we maintain the present safeguards. At the huge depths it's being done at it's clearly a whole lot safer than all the mining that's gone on over many centuries, creating huge unsupported cavities everywhere.
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[flecc]

Reasons to be cheerful : a genuine Brexit Bonus! (Roll of drums please!)

1. Toshiba 'aint gonna build the next generation Nuclear Plant
2. We can't apparently afford to
   
3. After Brexit we may well not need it anyway!
4. No additional Nuclear waste to leak into the Irish Sea (accidentally)

Best stop celebrating, this hiccup will be overcome and we will be completing a new generation of nuclear power stations.
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[oldgroaner]

Best stop celebrating, this hiccup will be overcome and we will be completing a new generation of nuclear power stations.
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Last Nuclear plant built was Sizewell B in 1995, and we can no longer afford to build a new one, and you call that a hiccup?

 

[flecc]

Last Nuclear plant built was Sizewell B in 1995, and we can no longer afford to build a new one, and you call that a hiccup?

Yes, because we will afford and build new ones. There is no alternative, just keep watching.
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[oldgroaner]

Yes, because we will afford and build new ones. There is no alternative, just keep watching.
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No one doubts with Electric Cars adding to the tally the need is there, but
at the rate we are going the replacements are likely to be Tokamac or Lockheed Martin fusion reactors, or is that what we are waiting for?

 

[oldgroaner]

For info

Fascinating

 

[oldgroaner]

This "Other Johnson" resignation is interesting and so is the reaction to it
The Cheshire Cat tweeted this

And just how has he reached the conclusion "is not supported by the public" when the only way to find out is by giving them the choice?

 

[flecc]

For info

Fascinating

That's the benefit of being mostly empty and with much of the property and land having absent owners.
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[flecc]

No one doubts with Electric Cars adding to the tally the need is there, but
at the rate we are going the replacements are likely to be Tokamac or Lockheed Martin fusion reactors, or is that what we are waiting for?

No. You probably aren't aware of Toshiba's shaky status in this and some other industries. For many years they've invested much in research in many areas, including our lithium batteries and nuclear power plants, but with very poor actual returns. The great majority of their research has dead ended and they are now in financial difficulty, hence this withdrawal. There are plenty of alternatives for our nuclear power stations.

Personally I favour asking the South Koreans to build for us. They are amost totally dependent on nuclear power for their extensive industries and have an enviable nuclear record. They typically build each station in 4 years (compared to our 14 years to build Sizewell B) and they hold the world record at 2 years to completely build a station. Needless to say their costs are low too. To cap that the only accident they've ever had was two workers exposed when 12 gallons of heavy water leaked during some maintenance work at the Wolsung 3 plant and a further 20 workers had some exposure during the cleanup. No harm done and no deaths of course, this was a very minor incident.
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[oldgroaner]

That's the benefit of being mostly empty and with much of the property and land having absent owners.
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Very true!

 

[oyster]

Quite:

Dummy’s guide to geography helps Dominic Raab plot an idiot’s Brexit

Marina Hyde
Why does this government of all the talentless have to be so brazen about demonstrating it every week?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/09/dominic-raab-brexit-government