.. Ooh! can we get 300 of these for our border with NI.? I know of a number of steel merchants who would fancy the work..both sides don't want this:
goods need to go through real border gates and wait 20 minutes - 2 hours.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I thought this thread might eventually slow down.
Big mistake, I left it yesterday evening but by midday today it had grown three and a half pages!
And there was me at the 1000 page mark wondering if it would ever reach 2000 pages.
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Big mistake, I left it yesterday evening but by midday today it had grown three and a half pages!
And there was me at the 1000 page mark wondering if it would ever reach 2000 pages.
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Have a listen on catch up. Worth listening to. She seems quite confident, but then again she, s got BJ, JRM and JC in competition... She is growing into role... Suspect she has more support than ever before.. What with the collapse of Labour etc etc..
What collapse? There's many predictions of Labour winning the next GE and a few Conservative MPs have expressed nervousness about this.
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a recent poll says that JC would win against BJ but not aganst TM.
I take it that businesses do not like BJ's attitude.
TM was right to say the Chequers is an FTA on Marr's program. He seems to dislike her remark and rushed her a bit. However, the message did get through and I bet that'll confuse a few conservative voters.
Oh Ye of little Faith!I thought this thread might eventually slow down.
Big mistake, I left it yesterday evening but by midday today it had grown three and a half pages!
And there was me at the 1000 page mark wondering if it would ever reach 2000 pages.
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You will believe anything flecc... Labour have collapsed, the tory mps saying otherwise is merely a rallying cry.. Warning to beware. May is gathering support, he biggest threat is BJ... Pity Labour never came to their senses and campaigned on remain... oh and with a centrist rather than thick Marxist.
As usual you have really made my day, this is exactly what I want to see happen!
Roll on Brexit day! I shall celebrate along with everyone else.
I love it when a disaster backfires on the perpetrators, don't you?
This will destroy the Conservative Party as a political entity.
What could be more delightful than the Brexit poisoned chalice landing firmly where it belongs with the Clowns who conceived it and will now , having as the saying goes
Sown the wind, only to reap the Whirlwind.
And, looking on the bright side there's still time for TM to make an even bigger balls up of the job too!
What more can one ask?
It's perfect! The Tory Party has the survival instincts of a Dodo, and political nous about on a par with the road sense of a pheasant.
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I see from reading recent posts that the degenerate troll is behaving increasingly in the manner of all internet trolls. The warnings from expert behavioural scientists advising 'Don't feed the troll' should be heeded.
Tom
Tom
only if they can't agree a deal.
If TM brings back a deal, you and I may be dead and gone before JC becomes PM.
PS: I'd like to see Ed Balls back in the HoC.
We've already got one would be dancer, so no thank you to Ed Balls!
Why would I want Corbyn to be PM? I don't give a damn who is till we are back in the EU, after that perhaps he may be better than the other clowns, but he needs to wake up to reality first.
I look forward to that 'Hoist with his own petard' moment as Billy Shakespeare wrote for the part of Prince Hamlet in Act 3 Scene 4 of his play.
Bring it on!
Tom
Can we have a little sympathy from you please oldtom? he did have a rude awakening this morning after a mishap caused an unscheduled landing on his head with a ringing sound in his ears too
Daily Mail quoter please Flecc.Says the Daily Mail reader !!!
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I, d totally agree with you, re Tories totally collapsing.... If we had something to replace them... Imagine your chosen scenario. Brexit happens, causes chaos, Tories lose to Corbyn in a forced GE, we then have double jeapordy of failed Brexit and a party leading country with about as much idea about economics has Tom has for Diplomacy. Feck all.
That really should be frightening for us all... Can you imagine companies deserting UK along with all the wealthy because of Brexit and Corbyn...
The only route to a sensible outcome is keeping May, cancelling Brexit to shut remainers up and Labour moving into 21st century rather than 19th and adopting workable fiscal policies... Then they might win a GE rather than just inherit power and then not have a clue what to do with it...
The business world fear a current Labour government way more than even a no deal Brexit. Trouble is OG's rune stones are saying both a failed Brexit then a Corbyn government. That will destroy us without a doubt...
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Like which? The only public outbursts in member states (none recently) against the EU have been organised by right-wing extremist groups in countries with a know history of alignment and support for fascism. Those demonstrations have been small-scale and poorly orchestrated - think EDL or BNP for example.
The rest of the world is only watching current events out of incredulity. The progress of 'Brexit' is an abuse of power and cannot be equated with parliamentary democracy. If the referendum is considered the correct way to go about altering the UK's position on matters of both national and international importance, why wasn't the same tool used to determine the assaults on Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria? Now, I know why but do you? The answer does not begin with, 'Ah yeah, but that's different!'
Tom
Good post Tom. I actually agree with the later part. You are a bit misdirected about the anti EU feelings, they are not just from extreme groups. Greece has very anti EU sentiments pretty much through all spectrum of society as has Italy. Many are watching how Brexit pans out,its exactly why EU have a vested interest in making Brexit appear bad for UK...
But rest of post Well done. No insults. Good points. Will of people was totally ignored over going to war... and we are still seeing repercussions for that stupidity.
I think you underestimate the pull of brexit because remainers see it as a conservative party's issue and it is in a mess because it is poorly handled by the same conservative party.
Let's play a little hypothetical voting game to illustrate where we are.
Let's say we have a vote where voters are asked to give first choice and second choice among Deal (Chequers), No Deal (off the cliff) and remain.
You would see something like this:
first choice: Deal: 18%, No Deal 34%, Remain 48%
second choice: Deal: 60%, No deal, 20%, Remain 20%.
You may say that voters will be forced to rally around Chequers by default, but that's not the only truth, Chequers suits a lot of British businesses and does deliver sustainability and a substantial sovereignty gain.
If JC becomes PM before March, it is likely that A50 will be delayed a little and a more satisfactory deal will deliver brexit with a lot less shock to the system.