Brexit, for once some facts.
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I suppose JC could do it with just a couple.
https://www.markpack.org.uk/153744/jeremy-corbyn-brexit/
Just to remind you where JC stands on EU.
Back in http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/brexit-for-once-some-facts.24369/page-1509#post-435262 I mentioned custard filled speed bumps - which would have been ideal for him. Preferably hit at high speed.
Sadly, the link in that post now seems to be dead.
Actually I'm not, am I? I'm not a fan of his, I don't believe he can make Brexit work for the best, because I don't believe any one can, and if he won't offer to cancel Brexit he won't get my vote, and I have said so many times.
I expect all politicians to remain what they are now, enemies of the public and too friendly with lobby groups and vested interest groups.
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Actually it just worked for me!
If we are going down that path, we need
Custard-Filled Speed Bumps
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Custard-Filled_20Speed_20Bumps
There's nothing like an unbiassed view, and rather like yours, this wasn't one of them was it?
Who cares?
Here we go with the "Duck billed Platitudes"Not to be trifled with.
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Quite frankly I'm Discustard
The fun gets better and better, for who would have thought that one of the reasons given for leaving the EU was to cut down on "Red Tape" and "EU regulations strangling business"
And it has resulted in requiring 8,000 new civil servants and duplication of everything that was being done inside the EU at no cost on our behalf?
And all for the benefit of protecting some offshore bank accounts, and accepting huge trading disadvantages by losing our biggest market and bargaining power.
Whoever set this damaging lunacy up must be in line for a
"Hero of the Russian Federation Award"
And it has resulted in requiring 8,000 new civil servants and duplication of everything that was being done inside the EU at no cost on our behalf?
And all for the benefit of protecting some offshore bank accounts, and accepting huge trading disadvantages by losing our biggest market and bargaining power.
Whoever set this damaging lunacy up must be in line for a
"Hero of the Russian Federation Award"
There might be bias in commentary (not sure there is actually) but the factual content around how Corbyn has voted can not be disputed. He is without doubt a Leaver/Euro sceptic.. Wonder how his tete a tete went with Barnier... ?
Equally the record of how May voted cannot be disputed either, or that Jackass suggested a second referendum was possible.
Am I to believe that you believe that the politicians won't simply do what is expedient?
Yes. What annoys me, even tho I voted leave and still believe we should do so, is the simple fact an entire section of public is simply not being represented at any level. Had Corbyn put aside his feelings about leaving and campaigned on remain(or labour appointed a leader believing in remain) we would now know exactly where we stand. As it is Corbyn sneakily supports leave but with an ambiguity to con remainers into supporting Labour in the forlorn hope he might campaign for remain at some future point.He is conning public more than anyone and especially remainers.
Corbyn's stance on EU BTW OG completely ridicules your argument about leave is all for the rich. Corbyn will leave and destroy country with his attempts at wealth distribution...out of the EU.
It is fairly common for conferences to ask for questions from the flaw.
Looks like PC might no longer immediately mean Politically Correct but...
New Plaid Cymru leader: no-deal Brexit could hasten Welsh independence
Welsh economy could unravel if UK crashes out of EU, warns Adam Price
The newly elected leader of the Welsh nationalist party Plaid Cymru has said that a no-deal Brexit would lead to economic disaster for Wales and could strengthen the case for independence.
Adam Price, in an interview with the Guardian after replacing Leanne Wood as leader on Friday, said he backed the idea of a people’s vote on Brexit and that a “remain” option should be on the ballot paper.
But if a no-deal Brexit did bring about an economic crisis it could prompt more people in Wales to come to the conclusion that independence from Westminster may be the best option, he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/28/new-plaid-cymru-leader-adam-price-leanne-wood-wales-independence
New Plaid Cymru leader: no-deal Brexit could hasten Welsh independence
Welsh economy could unravel if UK crashes out of EU, warns Adam Price
The newly elected leader of the Welsh nationalist party Plaid Cymru has said that a no-deal Brexit would lead to economic disaster for Wales and could strengthen the case for independence.
Adam Price, in an interview with the Guardian after replacing Leanne Wood as leader on Friday, said he backed the idea of a people’s vote on Brexit and that a “remain” option should be on the ballot paper.
But if a no-deal Brexit did bring about an economic crisis it could prompt more people in Wales to come to the conclusion that independence from Westminster may be the best option, he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/28/new-plaid-cymru-leader-adam-price-leanne-wood-wales-independence
How does it ridicule my argument ? there are bound to be people opposed to the idea, and in no way does that affect my judgement, as I don't rely on other people's opinions being agreeable for me to make a judgement.
And as for his attempts at wealth redistribution, I agree in principle with the idea, but the timing and means are not in my opinion sufficient for him to succeed in this enterprise.
like you he suffers from delusion.
Brexit simply isn't the means to the end he seeks.
By the way, why do you still belive we should leave the EU?
Have you found out some previously undiscovered advantage?
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If Corbyn thinks he can utilise Brexit to redistribute wealth and start his "luxury communism" it ridicules your claim of Brexit being purely for the wealthy.
It totally depends on what you do with Brexit when you get it. (or if you get it)
Planely a Tory Brexit would be a different animal to a Labour one.
……..Only on the internet and they are called trolls!Because here are lots of people who think like you
Just as an aside, I believe trolls can't have children as that requires two people of different gender because singleton attempts don't quite achieve procreation…..thankfully!
Tom
Saw this and almost agree with it. A slight alteration in #4 by switching the word, 'elected' for a better word - 'abolished' - and I could agree with it fully!
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