Brexit, for once some facts.
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You might find one or two...
But question was Which one can you vote for? And I took you to be me IYSWIM
I reckon up and down the country, a lot of voters won't bother to vote next time because of the same problem. The old left / right division of British poliitics is no more, all because of brexit.
New brexit development:
I watched Robert Peston interviewing Jeremy Hunt tonight on ITV
"A no-deal Brexit would be a mistake that we would regret for generations if we were to see a fissure, if we were to have a messy, ugly divorce”
So JH speaks now for TM, hinting that the government would accept to make further concession for access to the SM.
JRM and his ERG won't like that.
But I am! I shall form "The Old Groaner Unpopular Front Party" on a Manifesto of Home rule and restoration of the Kingdom of Northumbria, which as everyone knows stretches from Edinburgh to the Humber.
For a start our Manifesto demands restoration of the ancient rights of Clan Bell to have a Chieftain again, and an amnesty and pardon for the minor transgressions thereof .
We shall offer exactly what the voter wants, chaos, pandemonium, and a rather fetching tartan.
Back to the good Old Days when a knock on the door at night met meeting a Polite but firm minded stranger/s and meant being given"an offer ye canna refuse"
Now that is "Taking back Control" and "exercising the Will of the People" for ye!
Mogg only wants to put back the clock 200 years, we call that small ambition we want to be free of not merely the ECJ,but anybody else's court either!
I jest of course but then Brexit one might observe, has empowered the idiot fringe to come out of the Asylum with equally loony and antisocial notions they actually do expect us to fall for!
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It's Comedy again In the Express with this headline
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Are you watching Mr Putin? UK’s next gen ‘Brexit Bomber’ warplane leaves Tupolev for dead
BRITAIN is reinforcing its position as a “tier one” military power at the vanguard of defence aerospace with the release of its world-beating Tempest fighter jet – more than a match for the Tupolev Tu-22M3M long-range strike bomber being paraded by Russia’s Vladimir Putin yesterday.
For a start all we have is a mock up so it's years away, but the funniest part is this
New RAF fighter jet APPROVED as deal struck with ITALIAN manufacturer
AN ITALIAN company has been selected to play a key role in the development of the RAF’s latest fighter jet, the Tempest – with defence minister Gavin Williamson wanting them to be operational by 2035.
Note the date and where this "Brexit" fighter will be made... we should be back in the EU by 2035 anyway!
So the "Brexit Bomber" is actually an "Anglo Italian Fighter"
As usual the Express makes a "pigs ear" of it's attempt at promoting Brexit.
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Are you watching Mr Putin? UK’s next gen ‘Brexit Bomber’ warplane leaves Tupolev for dead
BRITAIN is reinforcing its position as a “tier one” military power at the vanguard of defence aerospace with the release of its world-beating Tempest fighter jet – more than a match for the Tupolev Tu-22M3M long-range strike bomber being paraded by Russia’s Vladimir Putin yesterday.
For a start all we have is a mock up so it's years away, but the funniest part is this
New RAF fighter jet APPROVED as deal struck with ITALIAN manufacturer
AN ITALIAN company has been selected to play a key role in the development of the RAF’s latest fighter jet, the Tempest – with defence minister Gavin Williamson wanting them to be operational by 2035.
Note the date and where this "Brexit" fighter will be made... we should be back in the EU by 2035 anyway!
So the "Brexit Bomber" is actually an "Anglo Italian Fighter"
As usual the Express makes a "pigs ear" of it's attempt at promoting Brexit.
And not a chance of it being operational on schedule.Note the date and where this "Brexit" fighter will be made... we should be back in the EU by 2035 anyway!
This lyric popped into mind:
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
That’s hilarious. We are such a formidable world power we can’t even make it and find it necessary to ask another country to build it for us.It's Comedy again In the Express with this headline
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Are you watching Mr Putin? UK’s next gen ‘Brexit Bomber’ warplane leaves Tupolev for dead
BRITAIN is reinforcing its position as a “tier one” military power at the vanguard of defence aerospace with the release of its world-beating Tempest fighter jet – more than a match for the Tupolev Tu-22M3M long-range strike bomber being paraded by Russia’s Vladimir Putin yesterday.
For a start all we have is a mock up so it's years away, but the funniest part is this
New RAF fighter jet APPROVED as deal struck with ITALIAN manufacturer
AN ITALIAN company has been selected to play a key role in the development of the RAF’s latest fighter jet, the Tempest – with defence minister Gavin Williamson wanting them to be operational by 2035.
Note the date and where this "Brexit" fighter will be made... we should be back in the EU by 2035 anyway!
So the "Brexit Bomber" is actually an "Anglo Italian Fighter"
As usual the Express makes a "pigs ear" of it's attempt at promoting Brexit.
I think the day of the fighter plane is over, or it certainly will be by the time this thing gets off the ground. We need to be thinking about systems which are capable of destroying aircraft or detonating the aggressor’s own nuclear weapons on their soil, just as they leave the launch pad. I see that applications for degree courses in Games & Telly are at a record high this year. Perhaps those graduates can develop these systems for us in the future.
I remember when I first started work, the cynical old farts were always saying that if things carried on as they were, the country would be ******. Well now, I think the country actually is ******.
Ps I’m amazed that the naughty word filter let me get away with the word cynical.
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I'm too young to remember..................
I see Hunt has done a Trump!
This was the Headline in the Independent
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A no-deal Brexit would be a 'mistake we would regret for generations', says Jeremy Hunt
Foreign secretary also hints the government would consider EU proposals that demanded accepting European environmental and social legislation
This morning he has said precisely the opposite!
"Britain will prosper if there is a no deal Brexit, I have been misquoted!
I suggest we have an online poll to decide a league table for the biggest liars among our politicians reviewed at regular say monthly intervals.
Just one problem, as with most of my ideas, i haven't a clue how to make it happen... is there are person on here with the means to make this happen?
This was the Headline in the Independent
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A no-deal Brexit would be a 'mistake we would regret for generations', says Jeremy Hunt
Foreign secretary also hints the government would consider EU proposals that demanded accepting European environmental and social legislation
This morning he has said precisely the opposite!
"Britain will prosper if there is a no deal Brexit, I have been misquoted!
I suggest we have an online poll to decide a league table for the biggest liars among our politicians reviewed at regular say monthly intervals.
Just one problem, as with most of my ideas, i haven't a clue how to make it happen... is there are person on here with the means to make this happen?
I'll get you for that disagree oldtom........I'm too young to remember..................
On the grounds that someone on here told me I was in my second childhood
With stupendously bad timing the Government announces not only that we are placing the order to build this aircraft with the Italians who's main claim to fame is that they hold the world record for collapsing bridges.
This is akin to admitting we are condemning the future RAF fighter pilots to the role of "Kamikazes!"
But to add to the sheer nonsense of it all the Right wing papers laud it as a "Brexit Bomber"
Inevitably this will come true and the project will indeed "Bomb"
This will end badly, but then look at the lessons of the history of the Royal Flying Corp (predecessor of the RAF)
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"Put statistically, official figures at the end of the war listed 14,166 dead pilots, of whom 8,000 had died while training in the UK. In other words more pilots died training at home than were killed by the enemy, a remarkable state of affairs which even reached the ears of Parliament. On 20 June 1918 the Secretary of State was asked for an explanation. His answer naturally put the blame on the pilots themselves, since 'discipline after all was not the pre-eminent quality of youth.'"
Government attitudes haven't changed much have they?
And this too
"Part of the problem may have been the attitude of the authorities. Denis Winter notes German training deaths were only about a quarter of front line losses.
Winter doesn't go into the reason for the better German record. Maybe it was because the Germans had better planes, or better discipline. But I suspect the real reason is that they were outnumbered and knew they couldn't afford such wastage. Maybe the British upper classes were a little disdainful of the ordinary people in the armed forces and weren't overly concerned about the deaths of so many 'working class' men."
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I know, "Brexit Bomber" is a fantastic title. Wonderful. I imagine that name will induce the puffing of chests and the formation of patriotic tears of pride in the eyes of those who have never lived through a war or done anything which resembles military service. Our boys deserve nothing less than an Italian made Brexit Bomber. (I can't stop laughing)
back in 2005-2010, the CIA created STUXNET, which wormed its way into Iranian centrifuges. Since, there are viruses like MELTDOWN and SPECTRE that worm their way through Javascript to kill the target CPUs. So if you know the frequency of the airplane's communication, it's conceivable that you can send out the code to destroy the computer system on that airplane.
Ah! I never thought of that. You got me!I'll get you for that disagree oldtom........
On the grounds that someone on here told me I was in my second childhood
Tom