I do believe we should leave the EU. The people in this country never voted to join the EU. It has been forced on us by scheming politicians. I cannot see how it can be so hard to come to sensible trading arrangements with Europe without being a member of the club. They have what we want we have what they want. Why make it complicated. Truth is they want to be in total control and despite the mocking tone of some on here who have no faith in the UK, I think that we can be successful with the right leadership, and that would upset the cosy little protectionist cartel that the EU has become. Furthermore I want the people that we vote to power to be able to run the country for the benefit of it's citizens without interference from outside. If we don't have that, personally I do not see any point in voting for anyone. The downside is that we could end up with Corbyns crackpots in charge and that would be a far worse outcome than brexit. It is going to be difficult but it is necessary or we will just end up being governed from afar. I suspect that the few remainers on this thread will tear this view to pieces,but I also suspect that in the country at large there will be a lot of people thinking the same way.
I won't tear your view to pieces, since I also recognise all the many faults of the EU which I'd rather be without.
Unfortunately I also recognise those of our governments which have been far worse for the individual than anything the EU did. I don't understand the dislike of the two European Courts when everything they've done for us has been such a great benefit for individuals, undoing or improving many of our governments more oppressive laws. I don't want to lose their valuable protection and revert to the evils of such as Michael Howard and Jack Straw when they were Home Secretaries.
I strongly object to being referred to as a subject with duties and responsibilities but no mention of rights. Instead I want to be known and respected as a citizen with rights, just like my fellow European citizens.
For all the above reasons I want to keep the invaluable Human Rights Act and not have it replaced by a Bill of (reduced) Rights of the sort the Tories want to keep us subjected to.
And since I lived though the long decline of the UK's manufacturing and commerce to almost non-existence before we joined the Common Market, I know how incompetent our governments have been at economics. It's a sad fact that the only time Britain was ever successful was with slavery and the captive market of an Empire held by force, obviously neither available or desirable any more.
Otherwise I've avoided mentioning the myths about Britain that so many who want to leave the EU believe, since the details usually cause offence and that is not my intention.
On balance for me, the undoubted faults of the EU are overwhelmed by the faults of us going it alone again, based entirely on the facts. No matter how attractive the ambitions of the Brexiters might be, they are only ambitions, unsupported by a shred of hard evidence.
Ergo, I prefer to remain in the EU, but must accept whatever agreement is reached, hopefully not too far from membership.
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