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some call his tactics cheating and lying.
he'd call it 'too brutal for the other side'
untrustworthy I'd call it.
Unsuitable for any job where his tendency to utter comments that display his insane instability and endanger the public anywhere describes him quite well.
He should be declared unfit, and replaced by a responsible adult, duly elected to replace him.
It is highly probable that this will happen in time.
Trump tells lies and manipulates the truth? We are used to better behaviour than that. Ours are so trustworthy.
No but they are slower to change tack
 
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Unsuitable for any job where his tendency to utter comments that display his insane instability and endanger the public anywhere describes him quite well.
He should be declared unfit, and replaced by a responsible adult, duly elected to replace him.
It is highly probable that this will happen in time.

No but they are slower to change tack


Trump was elected into office via the electoral system which operates in the USA. The same system which put Obama in the White House and could have put Hilary Clinton there.

If the American people are dissatisfied with his performance, they will use the electoral system to replace him.

You should respect that principle and respect the choice the American people have made.
 
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Trump was elected into office via the electoral system which operates in the USA. The same system which put Obama in the White House and could have put Hilary Clinton there.

If the American people are dissatisfied with his performance, they will use the electoral system to replace him.

You should respect that principle and respect the choice the American people have made.
No tillson, by your logic we should have respected Hitler. Fascists deserve no respect no matter where they emerge
And there is of course the oddity of you saying I should respect an absurd system where the one with least votes wins the election, and your hypocritical stance on the lord mayor of London elected in a much more democratic manner.

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Trump is not only fascist.
The pictures of him holding TM's hand on the steps made me want to puke.
So where the USA goes, UK follows?
TM represents the UK for God's sake.
She should be able to walk up the steps by herself.
 
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No tillson, by your logic we should have respected Hitler. Fascists deserve no respect no matter where they emerge
And there is of course the oddity of you saying I should respect an absurd system where the one with least votes wins the election, and your hypocritical stance on the lord mayor of London elected in a much more democratic manner.

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Not the same thing at all.
 
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Trump is not only fascist.
The pictures of him holding TM's hand on the steps made me want to puke.
So where the USA goes, UK follows?
TM represents the UK for God's sake.
She should be able to walk up the steps by herself.
I think he was just helping her along because she is misshapen. I’m pretty sure there was no facist intent.
 
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From the Express
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NO MORE Mr Nice Guy!' Farage vows to return to politics if May is not FORCED to STEP DOWN
NIGEL Farage called on Prime Minister Theresa May to step down over her alleged attempts to "overturn" the results of the Brexit referendum with her plans for a soft withdrawal from the European Union..

Oxymoron Alert...Oxymoron Alert! o_O
.. less of the oxy , more of the .....
 

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And he didn't will any prizes by walking in front of the Queen either, the man's utterly unfit for office anywhere.
I think he was just helping her along because she is misshapen. I’m pretty sure there was no facist intent.
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Trump was elected into office via the electoral system which operates in the USA. The same system which put Obama in the White House and could have put Hilary Clinton there.

If the American people are dissatisfied with his performance, they will use the electoral system to replace him.

You should respect that principle and respect the choice the American people have made.
.. that is exactly so, and since Mr Kahn actually got a majority of the London electrorate, you should have done the same. Calling a democratically elected mayor a pig falls into the term disrespect. As a point of actual fact MrTrump did NOT get the majority of the vote of the US people. . It was the structure of the electral college system which gave him the the role.
The elected leaders in all of the western counties have been living with a dilemma for the last 18 months. .. How to respect the institutional role of President ,while having no respect for the incumbent. Can you identify any other senior politician who systematically tells untruths?
 

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And he didn't will any prizes by walking in front of the Queen either, the man's utterly unfit for office anywhere.
Utterly unfit in any civilised society. His obsessively self-centred nature amounts to contempt for all others, leaving him with no idea how to behave in any company at any time.

If only we had politicians with the courage to say to the Americans, "If that's who you think fit for the highest office, you are no friend of ours".
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Utterly unfit in any civilised society. His obsessively self-centred nature amounts to contempt for all others, leaving him with no idea how to behave in any company at any time.

If only we had politicians with the courage to say to the Americans, "If that's who you think fit for the highest office, you are no friend of ours".
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quite a few of our MPs have criticised his behaviour in parliament.
 

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quite a few of our MPs have criticised his behaviour in parliament.
Unfortunately not in government at cabinet level though. The Americans have become so accustomed to behavioural criticism from around the world they've become too thick skinned to take any notice, treating it as background noise.

It's likely that it will only have any effect when it's face to face from the most senior levels in major governments.
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.. that is exactly so, and since Mr Kahn actually got a majority of the London electrorate, you should have done the same. Calling a democratically elected mayor a pig falls into the term disrespect. As a point of actual fact MrTrump did NOT get the majority of the vote of the US people. . It was the structure of the electral college system which gave him the the role.
The elected leaders in all of the western counties have been living with a dilemma for the last 18 months. .. How to respect the institutional role of President ,while having no respect for the incumbent. Can you identify any other senior politician who systematically tells untruths?
It always raises a smile when people blame the electoral system for delivering Trump. Not a peep about it when it delivers Obama though. I understand why, and that’s even funnier.
 
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It always raises a smile when people blame the electoral system for delivering Trump. Not a peep about it when it delivers Obama though. I understand why though and that’s even funnier.
But Obama won the popular vote in both of his election terms. But as long as you keep smiling that's all that counts... Is it something in the water or do you need pills?
 

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But Obama won the popular vote in both of his election terms. But as long as you keep smiling that's all that counts... Is it something in the water or do you need pills?
You misunderstand. Trump and Obama both won the US Presidential election. There is no difference. The office of President of The USA must treated with respect and the American people’s choice should also be respected.

What we saw from the protesters in London yesterday is the result of poor breeding and not having experienced a proper upbringing.
 

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