Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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I really do not understand how a party leader can stand by and take no action when a member of the Cabinet is patently following his own agenda and pontificating to those who will listen in a manner which undermines the leader.

Johnson is a loose cannon and each reported outpouring from him is sheer obfuscation designed purely in the hope that he may transfer his self-importance to a wider audience, rather than to express any valid prognosis for the derailed 'Brexit' train.

These words from Johnson illustrate perfectly what a bad idea Care in the Community is as a replacement for so many dedicated hospitals:

He also said he was "increasingly admiring of Donald Trump", who is preparing for an historic summit with North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un.
Mr Johnson was reported to have said: "I have become more and more convinced that there is method in his madness."
"Imagine Trump doing Brexit," he added.
"He'd go in bloody hard... There'd be all sorts of breakdowns, all sorts of chaos. Everyone would think he'd gone mad. But actually you might get somewhere.
"It's a very, very good thought."


Tom
I'm sure Putin admires Boris too:cool:
 
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oldgroaner

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we are going to the seaside / on holiday.
it was nice but we have to go home after that.
And as it is a bank holiday we are stuck in a 25 mile tailback behind a diesel tractor towing a leaking Muck Spreader in front and a Livestock lorry loaded with pigs behind.
The good news is that the wind has dropped, the sun has come out and you can't see far for the heat shimmering on the line of standing vehicles.
 

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And as it is a bank holiday we are stuck in a 25 mile tailback behind a diesel tractor towing a leaking Muck Spreader in front and a Livestock lorry loaded with pigs behind.
The good news is that the wind has dropped, the sun has come out and you can't see far for the heat shimmering on the line of standing vehicles.
It's raining in France.
 

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Is that really what we voted about? I thought we had voted about moving?
I thought about moving myself to Adelaide Australia, Cape Town South Africa, the Seychelles, Mauritius etc - but still go back to Southend each time.
 
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And as it is a bank holiday we are stuck in a 25 mile tailback behind a diesel tractor towing a leaking Muck Spreader in front and a Livestock lorry loaded with pigs behind.
The good news is that the wind has dropped, the sun has come out and you can't see far for the heat shimmering on the line of standing vehicles.
what are you complaining about? flecc is proven right, polls reveal more voters getting fed up with what brexit is turning into, brexiteers are preparing for defeat, JC is slowing moving to remaining in the SM.
only 5 more years like this.
 
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I thought about moving myself to Adelaide Australia, Cape Town South Africa, the Seychelles, Mauritius etc - but still go back to Southend each time.
Yep, totally agree. We, ve had spells in some of allegedly nicest places. Rather live in Rotherham than any of them.(But we are near motorway and 3 airports!!! Oh and grand kids)
Long term expats and locals we got to know in Greece, Spain and France talk about 8 year cycle. That's about how long expats stay expats. They either go home, or it's their last 8 years.
Many also say if you think UK is racist, elitist, corrupt or crime ridden... Stay there. It isn't at side of where you are considering moving to. Everywhere has its problems.
Mind you, think this is brilliant by Macron.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/07/french-school-students-to-be-banned-from-using-mobile-phones

We should do same.
 
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Agreed, it is brilliant, but it's going to be near to impossible to enforce.

The law I would like to see is that only phones to a certain standard can be made and sold. The standard including an unhackable timer locking the phone to a maximum of 4 hours operation in any 24 hour period, other than calls to an emergency number.

Because it's not only the kids who need some discipline on phone use.
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how about jamming mobile phone signal in school ground.
They'll be forced to use a landline.
 
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Agreed, it is brilliant, but it's going to be near to impossible to enforce.

The law I would like to see is that only phones to a certain standard can be made and sold. The standard including an unhackable timer locking the phone to a maximum of 4 hours operation in any 24 hour period, other than calls to an emergency number.

Because it's not only the kids who need some discipline on phone use.
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Yes, apparently Macron was unimpressed that during legal discussion about issue.... many of lawyers were on their phones.
And as for enforcing ruling, noticed at our local comp kids still congregate at bike sheds smoking!
So yes it will be another problem for teachers.
 
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Yes, apparently Macron was unimpressed that during legal discussion about issue.... many of lawyers were on their phones.
House of Commons just as bad. Most days only a small handful of members in there and even them tapping away to Twitter on their phones.

The world is falling to bits. Maybe we should be burning an effigy of Graham Alexander Bell on the November 5th bonfires instead of poor Guy Fawkes who only wanted to do us all a favour.
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Mr Barnier has rejected TM's NI backstop proposal:

"it must be Ireland-only, not UK-wide"

So no extended transition by the NI backdoor!

TM will have to give up NI or face WTO.

I can see a new GE coming soon.
 

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House of Commons just as bad. Most days only a small handful of members in there and even them tapping away to Twitter on their phones.

The world is falling to bits. Maybe we should be burning an effigy of Graham Alexander Bell on the November 5th bonfires instead of poor Guy Fawkes who only wanted to do us all a favour.
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Hang about!!! he's one of my ancestors!
Mind you, on reflection as most of them were cattle thieves, Rievers and Bandits, they would probably regard that as an honour to the Clan!
He must rank as the biggest trouble causer (among pretty stiff competition mind you) that we have produced.....
Dont anyone dare say it..........................
 
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He`s been given one helluva run for his money lately !!
I'll take that as Professional Praise
And on a historical note, did you know that he refused to have a telephone in his study?
"Too bloody disturbing!" was his comment when asked why.......
I like his style, I really do. :cool:
 
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YouGov have JC as having 24% of those polled thinking he, d make best PM, a substantial drop. They are attributing 44% to TM, a small rise.????

Labour are giving away, well actually given away, a golden opportunity.
 
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YouGov have JC as having 24% of those polled thinking he, d make best PM, a substantial drop. They are attributing 44% to TM, a small rise.????

Labour are giving away, well actually given away, a golden opportunity.
To collar the blame?
 

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