Brexit, for once some facts.

[Woosh]

You plucked one point, out of a few I listed, and I go on with a list.

So you don't have a pension with a UK company then? You won't ever want to visit your inlaws in the UK?

there is no problem with my pension or my wife's future pension, both are UK pensions, they just get paid into our UK accounts. Millions of people have pension funds in different countries, even my children have company pension schemes in both France and UK. We'll keep our house in the UK, my son lives in London.

 

[Zlatan]

Ok, so you don't think Brexit will have any impact on that... really?

No impact on you at all.

So you already have another passport from an EU27 nation, that will allow you freedom to retire there? How are you going to move your pension money from UK into €... ? No family ever planning to visit you, you're never planning on coming back? Planning on buying or renting a house in France?

Loads of people buy, retire, come and go from France from out of EU.
My neighbour was Australian.....a few Kiwis lived in village. The number of retirees from uk is just too large to introduce draconian rules...would be cutting their nose to spite...
The only slight down for pension abroad is poor exchange rate...but even when it was at its worst you could still but menu del Dias for £9...bottle of brandy £5...Plat du Jour £10...( Prices in French/ Spanish Lidl cheaper than home...cheap plonk £2, Champagne ( copy, which we love) £1.80.)
Diesel is still cheaper in France than uk and more so in Spain. Brexit will have no affect whatsoever on retirees. France and Spain need them for income and to keep house market bouyant.
Fairly sure it wont affect weather...I think Osborne claimed it would.
I,m sat in St Cyprien now drinking a beer that cost 80p a bottle, which would be over £1 at home) 24 degrees...after a great days sailing...Wind, sun and prices all fine..
Woosh
I,d recommend retiring to Languedoc Roussilon...beware of grandkids...they pull you home...

 

[oldtom]

the only way to cancel brexit is for Vince Cable to become PM.
It's not likely though.

I'm sure if you try really hard, you might possibly find someone more untrustworthy than 'the man for all seasons'!

Tom

 

[Zlatan]

I'm sure if you try really hard, you might possibly find someone more untrustworthy than 'the man for all seasons'!

Tom

Milliband ? Will he stand ? I doubt it now.

 

[Woosh]

I'm sure if you try really hard, you might possibly find someone more untrustworthy than 'the man for all seasons'!

Tom

I haven't tried. I drop the name Vince Cable in the post because he's the only one campaigning to cancel brexit whereas I am happy with us leaving but staying close to the EU27.
JC and TM have practically identical negotiating stance on brexit.

 

[flecc]

Milliband ? Will he stand ? I doubt it now.

I think David Miliband is too wise to stand in the present mess.

He might be tempted to return to UK politics once all the dust of Brexit has settled, but that's a very long way off. The longer he leaves it the less the public will remember him or his relevance, and the unions will probably always oppose him, given the history.
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[Zlatan]

I think David Miliband is too wise to stand in the present mess.

He might be tempted to return to UK politics once all the dust of Brexit has settled, but that's a very long way off. The longer he leaves it the less the public will remember him or his relevance, and the unions will probably always oppose him, given the history.
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I don't think his association with Clegg and Morgan was that wise. Their event was somewhat of a flash in the pan and attracted more derision than support.
I believe he stated at it he had no intention of entering the fray, sort of begs the question WTF was his little speech and address all about then? I think he,s returning to his comfy CEO role rescuing folk...??? Is it Thunderbirds he works for...looks familiar too. Back to Tracy Island for a while.

 

[flecc]

WTF was his little speech and address all about then?

Knowing the risk he could become a forgotten figure, maybe he just wants to keep his image alive as a future option in UK politics.
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[oldgroaner]

I'm sure if you try really hard, you might possibly find someone more untrustworthy than 'the man for all seasons'!

Tom

We could write a letter to Boris on Cambridge Analytica (or their heirs and successors) headed paper, saying that their plan to undermine Brexit is ready
This could be his big chance for PM!

 

[oldtom]

Pinched this from 'Ad Sinistram' and I love the piece from the late Tony Benn which explains exactly why this country needs socialism.....



Tom

 

[oldtom]

Corbyn has demonstrated that he is up for the task that May & Co. seem unable to resolve:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156446014163872

Tom

 

[oldtom]

Here is the UN response to the murderous regime in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2053443944687085

Frankly, I really can't see the point to the UN which is no more useful than NATO (No action - talk only!)

Tom

 

[oyster]

To maintain strict Neutrality and still maintain the balance of power we could rent half the missile tubes on the Trident submarines to the Americans and the other half to the Russians on "A provide your own missiles" arrangement
After all it's not as if we are ever going to use them, is it?

If we really wanted to do it properly, we'd rent all the missile tubes to both sides. After all it's not as if we are ever going to use them, is it? So make the most money...

 

[oldgroaner]

If we really wanted to do it properly, we'd rent all the missile tubes to both sides. After all it's not as if we are ever going to use them, is it? So make the most money...

Here's another even better plan, if they won't agree to that, offer them to " Rocket Man!"

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[oldgroaner]

Corbyn has demonstrated that he is up for the task that May & Co. seem unable to resolve:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156446014163872

Tom

Sorry but this is not the right thing to do for two reasons

Membership of the EU is far more important that economics.
Which in any case can never be better outside the group than as a member, so what they hell is the point of leaving?

The Social benefits of being in at the start of the United States of Europe would have been the best way to guarantee the future of the next generations, and we have squandered that golden opportunity by falling for the lies, deceit and false promises of the parasitic elite that gulls the Public into causing self harm to itself, and not just their children, but those that follow them.

We are beggaring them to to fatten the Rich,nothing more, nothing less.
Corbyn and the other so called socialists in the Labour Party have lost touch with the notion that Socialism is International not Parochial.

His pursuit of such a limited ambition as turning this country into another Cuba is quite simply traitorous.

The nation has become Donkeys led by Jackals over Brexit.

 

[Danidl]

Here is the UN response to the murderous regime in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2053443944687085

Frankly, I really can't see the point to the UN which is no more useful than NATO (No action - talk only!)

Tom

And your better alternative is?... The problem with the UN is that any of a select band, can veto anything.
As regarding NATO, be grateful that it no action, ... If it were it means western Europe is minutes away from annihilation.

 

[Danidl]

I already have a house in France. I only have my in-laws in the UK.

... Any now it all makes sense!!! With BREXIt you can keep them at arms length, clever, and there we were thinking there was madness in your method.

 

[oldgroaner]

Idiocy in the Telegraph
"
Exclusive:
Britain should spend as much on defence as it does on the NHS, minister suggests.

Against whom exactly can we afford to defend ourselves after Brexit?
And since we only own half of British industry why bother? we have been successfully invaded subjugated and conquered already.

 

[oldgroaner]

Referendum rigging news in the Guardian
"
Vote Leave and BeLeave used identical datasets to target Facebook users
Revelation raises new questions in ongoing investigation into Brexit campaign groups

More here
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/16/vote-leave-beleave-datasets-facebook-brexit-campaign

 

[Woosh]

Membership of the EU is far more important that economics.

here is a reply from their readers comments that I picked up this morning in the FT:

https://www.ft.com/content/fe2fb5a6-584c-11e8-b8b2-d6ceb45fa9d0

"Who needs the bleeding Europeans anyway? Let them stay in their poxy continent. What have they ever had to offer the world? Socrates, Kant, Erasmus and Descartes were a bunch of pseudo prats...God only knows what any of them were on about. Michelangelo, Vermeer, Van Gogh and Picasso should have stuck to house painting. Paris, Florence, the Alps and the Greek islands are all dumps of the first order. Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and Sibelius must have been tone deaf, given the dreadful racket they all came up with. Hesse, Hugo, Dante, Voltaire and Zola didn't know how to write for toffee. We're British and we can do very well without all of that tripe."

@ danidl: shush... my wife may read your comment.