Brexit, for once some facts.
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There,s a massive difference tho flecc...they never found WMD , the Novichok was found quite easily.
the team that was tasked with finding WMD in Iraq comprises citizens from a lot of countries. The team that investigates the Salisbury's poisoning is much more restricted. Ask yourself who analyses the samples and who gave the verdict that it was Russian military grade weapon?. Are they the same people?
Until the OPCW concludes its findings, we should avoid jumping to conclusion.
Like Sky News, Guardian, Times , etal did ?
And yes I trust the folk conducting tests here.
No. In Salisbury they either found something, or may have found something, or may not have found something. You don't know that Novichok was found. They announced it was Novichok days before Porton Down were even asked to identify it. Porton Down had to have their arm twisted to reluctantly agree it was of a Novichok "type". It took many days before they say they discovered a contaminated front door that they been guarding all the time. Neither the sequence of announcements or what is being said now makes any sense.
You seem to believe everything you are told by proven liars as an article of faith. I don't, so don't waste your time trying to convince me to have the same blind faith as you.
One truth we really do know is that much of the West regards Russia as an enemy and will use propaganda lies against that country, just as Russia does against the West, both well proven over many decades. Another certain truth is that the anti-Russian rhetoric has greatly intensified since the Russian acquisition of the Crimea.
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it's nothing to do with mistrusting people who did the analyses. It's the people that come on TV and give us the verdict that I don't trust, for the simple fact that they are career politicians.
Well it does show how convincing Press releases are,but nothing else.
So who will you all believe ? And when ?
At what point do you say, yes I accept that. In 12,years time after a Public Inquiry ? Well that's no good.. When JC is in power and carries out an investigation ? Or will he be corrupted by then..
At what point do you say, yes I accept that. In 12,years time after a Public Inquiry ? Well that's no good.. When JC is in power and carries out an investigation ? Or will he be corrupted by then..
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Well they were immediately wrong there. As I've already posted, Novichok was researched and made in Uzbekistan in the days of the USSR. There is no evidence that Russia ever made any, and Uzbekistan is now an independent country.
Once again, media guessing.
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And if you don't like their Principles, they can soon come up with others,
Like May the Remainers saying Brexit is Brexit
And Corbyn saying that boat has sailed.
There,s a lot of us about Tom...According to last Yougov survey 73% of folk are in agreement with me on this...
This anti semitism situation that Labour find themselves in could well be a blessing in disguise .
A socialist Party should not owe allegiance to Big Money from ANYWHERE
And with luck will lose the next GE and not carry the stain that Brexit will bring
After all Conservative money bought Brexit, let them make it work, or carry the can.
A socialist Party should not owe allegiance to Big Money from ANYWHERE
And with luck will lose the next GE and not carry the stain that Brexit will bring
After all Conservative money bought Brexit, let them make it work, or carry the can.
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So you are all wrong!
The majority often is Zlatan. Take the stock market and investment. The majority go one way and don't do well, the minority go the other way and get very wealthy.
That's always the case, no society has ever had the majority very wealthy, because the majority get most things wrong.
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If you are told by the Government you don't need real Evidence to make a decision, I'm surprised more by the fact that 27% had the sense to disagree, than that the rest found it convenient to accept what they were told.
We should reflect on how fickle Public opinion can be, as when Putin was attacking ISIS in Syria (And others we don't talk about) The right wing papers were lauding him as the sort of leader we should have, and the Reader's comments reflected this.
BIGLY as a certain someone might say.
No one seemed bothered about the fate of Russians here then, did they?
BIGLY as a certain someone might say.
No one seemed bothered about the fate of Russians here then, did they?
We have no proof New Zealand exists without visiting it ? No proof man has landed on moon. No proof CIA didn't plan twin towers. We have evidence suggesting the truth, no more on hundreds of things.
My grandad insisted all his life man hadn't walked on moon ...perhaps he was right.
"No. In Salisbury they either found something, or may have found something, or may not have found something. You don't know that Novichok was found. They announced it was Novichok days before Porton Down were even asked to identify it. Porton Down had to have their arm twisted to reluctantly agree it was of a Novichok "type" "
Flecc have you got a source for this information ?
Flecc have you got a source for this information ?